# PGM

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm/20103>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [October 17, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm/20103 "2010-10-17T04:51:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![sushiboy96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sushiboy96](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sushiboy96)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm/20103/1 "2010-10-17T04:51:23Z")

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Is the PGM that is found on yye a good yoyo without the hubstacks factored in? I just want some opinions from those who have it

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**Author:** ![yoyofoot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofoot/32/602_2.png) [@yoyofoot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofoot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm/20103/2 "2010-10-17T06:15:07Z")

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It’s pretty good, I’m using it for 5A and 1A. DO NOT THUMB GRIND WITH IT. When I try to thumb grind(without the hubstacks on) with it, there’s enough friction to heat up my nail and it hurts. I don’t know if it’s just mine or everybody’s, though. It still is a great yoyo. It’s great for arm and finger grinding, I like the finish. I sort of like the noise it makes when you bind, because the hubstacks keep spinning, so you can still hear a bearing as long as you don’t stop throwing for too long. Overall it’s comfortable and has a nice feel to it.

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**Author:** ![themaddoughnut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@themaddoughnut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/themaddoughnut)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm/20103/3 "2010-10-18T22:31:56Z")

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it is a good yoyo. it grinds good, it sleeps for like 2 mins. it has a nice feel to it, and a good shape :wink:

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**Author:** ![XLazyThrowerX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b5e925/32.png) [@XLazyThrowerX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XLazyThrowerX)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm/20103/4 "2010-10-18T22:38:08Z")

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> **[YYF PGM v2 Review By: LazyThrower](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php?topic=20309.0)**
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> Introduction I got this yoyo a while back and have decided to do a review on it. I was looking for a inexpensive throw with hubstacks and decent play. Specs Diameter:	2.22" Width:	1.61" Response System:	K-Pad - Medium Weight:	64 grams Bearing...

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