# pgm z stack

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\
**Created:** [August 9, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274 "2012-08-09T14:20:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![xxjohnsonxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b782af/32.png) [@xxjohnsonxx](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/xxjohnsonxx)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274/1 "2012-08-09T14:20:06Z")

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has anyone done it? im picking up a pgm soon and seeing if i should z stack it instead of the hubstacks.

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**Author:** ![T4T3Z0R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/t4t3z0r/32/949_2.png) [@T4T3Z0R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/T4T3Z0R)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274/2 "2012-08-09T14:37:24Z")

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> [@xxjohnsonxx](#):
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> has anyone done it? im picking up a pgm soon and seeing if i should z stack it instead of the hubstacks.

I dont see it working too well. plus they are vibey anyway and that would make it worse. i think it would casue something like a pgm to slow down to fast

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**Author:** ![TheYoYoist101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoist101/32/842_2.png) [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274/3 "2012-08-09T15:51:15Z")

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Ok I have tried this before and with a good straight throw you can get it to work without vibing out of control. Sadly spin time is greatly reduced. Your better off just getting a legit G5 or one of the magic yo’s that use Z-Stacks.

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**Author:** ![Hippo\_Samurai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hippo_samurai/32/1058_2.png) [@Hippo\_Samurai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hippo_Samurai)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274/4 "2012-08-09T16:37:53Z")

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I had no idea you could even hubstack it. And my PGM isn’t vibey at all.

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**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274/5 "2012-08-09T16:47:12Z")

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The pgm?

It’s comes with hubstacks.

But, you might have the non-stacked version.

That is possible to hubstack that. But… It’s not feasible. It would require massive modding.

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**Author:** ![Yomazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac91a4/32.png) [@Yomazing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yomazing)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-z-stack/41274/6 "2012-08-12T11:07:58Z")

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I put the top-tips on my plastic grind machine and while some throws work better than others it eventually always ended up with a gnarly vibe. Unfortunatly I lost my z-stacks but I imagine that it would do the same thing.