# pgm review **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [May 23, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567 "2009-05-23T02:46:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/1 "2009-05-23T02:46:31Z")
I got a pgm (plastic grind machine) a while ago. And it is a great yoyo. that is my review ;D lol…just kidding. Ok to start out, i will talk about the play. This yoyo is very smooth in the right hands and it is not a beginners yoyo. you have to bind to return it. It spins for a good amount of time. The hubstacks can be a bit noisy though. next is the look and feel. I am not a very big fan of the feel of this yoyo. it is very rough around the edges and has some manufacturing “plastic dings” (i just made that word up). The stickers are not very centered and it makes it look a little sloppy. And mine had a slight wobble to begin with. but it still played pretty well. now for price. This is a decent price for a yoyo of this kind. But the newer stacked version (grind machine 2.0) Is more affordable, and has hubstacks like mine (first version) Overall, this is a pretty decent yoyo. If you are looking for a good, affordable plastic yoyo, get this…or the legacy. ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/2 "2009-05-23T02:55:40Z")
please comment (forgot to add that ;D) ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/3 "2009-05-23T03:16:26Z")
Good review! Btw, you can edit your posts. I love pgm’s, but i dont like how all of them have “Plastic dings”. They hurt when grinding haha ;D ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/4 "2009-05-23T03:39:20Z")
thats what i was talking about! when i got it, it had dents in it. not many, but some ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/5 "2009-05-23T03:47:12Z")
> [@LEGACY1](#): > > thats what i was talking about! when i got it, it had dents in it. not many, but some Mine had like 6 lol, they hurt for grinding! Spent like 5 mins sanding them haha ;D ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/6 "2009-05-23T04:25:24Z")
Weird,mine didnt come with any. ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/7 "2009-05-23T04:26:22Z")
I havent sanded mine, but that would be good to try! and btw, that was my first review! and they DO hurt for grinding!!! ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/8 "2009-05-23T04:39:20Z")
> [@LEGACY1](#): > > I havent sanded mine, but that would be good to try! and btw, that was my first review! and they DO hurt for grinding!!! Did you get the version 2.0? ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/9 "2009-05-23T15:10:46Z")
Nope. I got the first one. Is the second one any better? ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/10 "2009-05-23T15:11:39Z")
> [@LEGACY1](#): > > Nope. I got the first one. Is the second one any better? I dont think so,was yours stacked,mine wasnt. ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/11 "2009-05-23T15:28:57Z")
yep! mine is stacked ;D ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/12 "2009-05-23T17:54:26Z")
One can misinterpret your review: > [@LEGACY1](#): > > Ok to start out, i will talk about the play. This yoyo is very smooth in the right hands and it is not a beginners yoyo. And then you say this: > [@LEGACY1](#): > > And mine had a slight wobble to begin with. but it still played pretty well. So how can it be very smooth, and have a wobble to begin with? Not a very well worded review in my opinion… ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/13 "2009-05-23T17:58:21Z")
oh sorry. i meant that it has a wobble, but glides on the string pretty well. in other words, the wobble doesnt affect it very much. sorry for the confusion ;D ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/14 "2009-05-23T21:54:09Z")
> [@rsmod123](#): > > Good review! Btw, you can edit your posts. I love pgm’s, but i dont like how all of them have “Plastic dings”. They hurt when grinding haha ;D its for it to grind better at least thats what i heard ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/15 "2009-05-23T22:11:47Z")
the rough surface i think is supposed to be good for grinding, but i was talking about bigger dents in the surface ---
**Author:** ![EvanB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@EvanB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanB)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/16 "2009-05-23T23:26:36Z")
For my dings( Ok, “Bumps”), I broke my string on concrete so it would go away and make more! … I meant to do it… ??? :🙂 :🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/17 "2009-05-24T01:03:21Z")
> [@LEGACY1](#): > > the rough surface i think is supposed to be good for grinding, but i was talking about bigger dents in the surface Yup, the beadblast-like surface is for better grinding, but the injection marks are not good for grinding. Its like small spikes sticking out of the yoyo, that hurt when they grind across your arm. Talking about the injection marks, not the rough surface. ---
**Author:** ![LEGACY1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LEGACY1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LEGACY1)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/18 "2009-05-24T01:08:18Z")
yeah. i plan to get gloves so it wont hurt when i finger/ palm grind. ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-review/2567/19 "2009-05-24T01:32:16Z")
Just sand off the dings.