# pgm or protostar?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [November 19, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492 "2009-11-19T19:49:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lczt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@lczt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lczt)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/1 "2009-11-19T19:49:30Z")
i know im making a lot of posts but im gonna buy my first unresponsive yoyo, im now advance player but i was using responsive yoyos… my question is: what yoyo is better: the yyf’s PGM or the protostar?? ??? ---
**Author:** ![bonesraphs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bonesraphs/32/43_2.png) [@bonesraphs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bonesraphs)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/2 "2009-11-19T20:28:56Z")
what shape do you want, round or H? ---
**Author:** ![lczt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@lczt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lczt)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/3 "2009-11-19T20:45:12Z")
> [@Raphael](#): > > what shape do you want, round or H? any one ---
**Author:** ![Maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Maximus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maximus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/4 "2009-11-19T20:50:12Z")
From what I’ve read, protostar’s better, except, of course, that it can’t grind as well as the Plastic Grind Machine. I’ve read rave reviews about both of them, though. If you’ve never tried an H shape, I’d go for the Protostar. ---
**Author:** ![AeroSlaYa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AeroSlaYa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AeroSlaYa)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/5 "2009-11-19T20:51:58Z")
It says that you already own the PGM. Back on topic, I would go with the ProtoStar, or you can just flip a coin if you’ve narrowed these yoyos down ---
**Author:** ![lczt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@lczt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lczt)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/6 "2009-11-19T21:03:10Z")
> [@YoYoBlaze](#): > > It says that you already own the PGM. > Back on topic, I would go with the ProtoStar, or you can just flip a coin if you’ve narrowed these yoyos down i dont have the pgm but i’ve try it , and it’s good , but i havent tried the protostar xD ---
**Author:** ![AeroSlaYa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AeroSlaYa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AeroSlaYa)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/7 "2009-11-19T21:04:36Z")
> [@lczt](#): > > > [@YoYoBlaze](#): > > > > It says that you already own the PGM. > > Back on topic, I would go with the ProtoStar, or you can just flip a coin if you’ve narrowed these yoyos down > > i dont have the pgm but i’ve try it , and it’s good , but i havent tried the protostar xD Then go with the ProtoStar and widen your variety and preferences ---
**Author:** ![lczt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@lczt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lczt)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/8 "2009-11-19T21:11:04Z")
> [@YoYoBlaze](#): > > > [@lczt](#): > > > > > [@YoYoBlaze](#): > > > > > > It says that you already own the PGM. > > > Back on topic, I would go with the ProtoStar, or you can just flip a coin if you’ve narrowed these yoyos down > > > > i dont have the pgm but i’ve try it , and it’s good , but i havent tried the protostar xD > > Then go with the ProtoStar and widen your variety and preferences OK thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jayman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@Jayman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jayman)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/9 "2010-04-25T01:25:54Z")
In my opinion, ive tried a protostar and have a gm, and id buy a protostar in a heartbeat The protostar COMES with a centertrac bearing, the spin time’s twice as long as a pgm, and the extra wide gap makes it impossible to miss most tricks. The only problems i see in the protostar is that the grinds are very bad, must be the surface or something. ---
**Author:** ![Maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Maximus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maximus)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/10 "2010-04-25T04:05:59Z")
> [@Jayman](#): > > In my opinion, ive tried a protostar and have a gm, and id buy a protostar in a heartbeat > > The protostar COMES with a centertrac bearing, the spin time’s twice as long as a pgm, and the extra wide gap makes it impossible to miss most tricks. > > The only problems i see in the protostar is that the grinds are very bad, must be the surface or something. Way to post on a thread that’s been dead for almost half a year. ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/11 "2010-04-26T13:58:57Z")
> [@Maximus](#): > > > [@Jayman](#): > > > > In my opinion, ive tried a protostar and have a gm, and id buy a protostar in a heartbeat > > > > The protostar COMES with a centertrac bearing, the spin time’s twice as long as a pgm, and the extra wide gap makes it impossible to miss most tricks. > > > > The only problems i see in the protostar is that the grinds are very bad, must be the surface or something. > > Way to post on a thread that’s been dead for almost half a year. Way to be a jerk to a guy that hasn’t been here long enough to break five posts. @Jayman: Try not to bring back topics that are really old, as it clutters up the board, and makes it harder for us to answer newer questions. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Jayman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@Jayman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jayman)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/pgm-or-protostar/8492/12 "2010-04-26T14:25:22Z")
thnx