# Perpetum and Punchliner HELP !

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/perpetum-and-punchliner-help/50936>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [March 17, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/perpetum-and-punchliner-help/50936 "2013-03-17T05:00:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Zafuri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/51bf81/32.png) [@Zafuri](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zafuri)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/perpetum-and-punchliner-help/50936/1 "2013-03-17T05:00:26Z")

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i just gone through the two tricks at [rethinkyoyo.com](http://rethinkyoyo.com) but it seems the two tricks are not that easy as wad i saw from the videos.

the perpetum starts with a brother trapeze and then just repeating the steps over and over again. but whenever i passed the yoyo and back to a brother trapeze and gonna pull it back to position again, the string overlaps inside the bearing and kinda like eating the strings up. ive a hard time keeping up the momentum there.

the punchliner starts with a upside down trapeze, so is the string in a “ready to bind” state for upside down trapeze ? and whenever i swing my yoyo counter clockwise to land on all the strings, i often lost momentum and also hit my thumb or any other part of my hand… how to prevent that ?

HELP~

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**Author:** ![Zafuri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/51bf81/32.png) [@Zafuri](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zafuri)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/perpetum-and-punchliner-help/50936/2 "2013-03-19T16:08:28Z")

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BUMP~ guys can check these two tricks out at youtube too… help~~

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**Author:** ![bjoerge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@bjoerge](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bjoerge)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/perpetum-and-punchliner-help/50936/3 "2013-03-19T16:44:35Z")

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At the secound trick you may have a yoyo with some rasponse? If not? Try to make the string in the up-down trapeze thing skide instead of binding? Never seen the trick, but sounds like that can help:)