# Outside sponsor

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [February 20, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150 "2019-02-20T22:53:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chaosgow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chaosgow/32/61394_2.png) [@chaosgow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaosgow)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/21 "2019-02-21T15:58:20Z")

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I think you’re being a bit silly now. Go back to your potatoes

Yoyo is not an extreme sport. Not remotely the same.

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**Author:** ![\_roebro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_roebro/32/47745_2.png) [@\_roebro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_roebro)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/22 "2019-02-21T17:29:44Z")

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i know its not hence why i said “extreme” but it is a peice of metal flying about on a string. i wouldnt call it an extream sport but it is marketable in my eyes and it is dangerous. have you seen bloody faces because of people getting hit in the face with yoyos

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/23 "2019-02-21T18:04:55Z")

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Come on. Yo yo is not remotely dangerous by any reasonable definition of the word.

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**Author:** ![feryuweryu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/feryuweryu/32/42092_2.png) [@feryuweryu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/feryuweryu)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/24 "2019-02-21T18:20:51Z")

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I might consider calling it exotic sport or something but definitely not extreme nor dangerous.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/25 "2019-02-21T18:34:26Z")

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I accidentally stabbed my palm with a pencil when I dropped it and was picking it up while writing an essay.

I guess writing is pretty dangerous

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**Author:** ![unklesteve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/unklesteve/32/106934_2.png) [@unklesteve](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/unklesteve)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/26 "2019-02-21T18:59:31Z")

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I’ve spoken to probably a dozen different people at Red Bull over the years, and the answer I always get is “we prefer to produce our own events rather than sponsor others”. They obviously seem to make exceptions for this, but they tend to be of the massive event variety, and we are absurdly small by those standards.

A brand the size of Red Bull has a lot of moving parts. A lot. Every event they are involved in means a few dozen people get something added to their workload. Something the size of Worlds just isn’t enough of an impact for them to justify that expense. It’s not even a matter of the money…the amount of money we ask for Worlds is nothing compared to what Warped Tour (RIP) or X-Games or something similar would ask for. It would cost them more in man hours to do something meaningful at Worlds than it would cost them in actual dollars, and it’s pretty easy to do the math and see that their brand is worth waaaaay more than ours, and they would literally just be paying to step down and lift us up. That’s not their business nor their responsibility.

So when people say “Why doesn’t Red Bull sponsor Worlds” the question we should be asking is “How do we make Worlds big enough to be worth sponsoring to Red Bull?”

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/27 "2019-02-21T19:47:58Z")

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I’m surprised given the scale they don’t have a “petty cash” fund for super minor sponsorships like this where $5000 or whatever is basically the cost of a single paperclip to them?

It is tricky to do assurance though, due diligence to make sure the furries conference they just sponsored doesn’t tarnish the Red Bull brand or whatever :wink:

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**Author:** ![JWaugh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jwaugh/32/42366_2.png) [@JWaugh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JWaugh)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/28 "2019-02-21T20:46:42Z")

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I’m not sure it is healthy for me to have laughed that hard.

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**Author:** ![\_roebro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_roebro/32/47745_2.png) [@\_roebro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_roebro)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/29 "2019-02-21T23:19:32Z")

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same i laughed so hard at the pencil joke.

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**Author:** ![\_roebro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_roebro/32/47745_2.png) [@\_roebro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_roebro)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/30 "2019-02-21T23:26:13Z")

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okay that makes way more sense then “extream” but my point still stands. brands like monster redbull and that sponser edgy events sometimes. i know steve said stuff about redbull but theres still plenty of brands out there

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/31 "2019-02-22T00:14:44Z")

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Bro yoyo isnt edgy at all idk where you’re getting these ideas from. People can get hurt from anything

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/32 "2019-02-22T00:35:12Z")

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Seriously. I think it takes effort to convince the average joe that you aren’t just playing with a kid’s toy.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/33 "2019-02-22T03:16:07Z")

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We are just playing with a children’s toy though…

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**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/34 "2019-02-22T05:12:25Z")

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> [@andy569](#):
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> We are just playing with a children’s toy though…

I already had this debate (more on your side tbh), and in some cases I agree. In other cases, I would hardly consider a $100+ unresponsive yoyo to simply be a child’s toy. Nor would I consider any of the championship competitors as mere children. I learned how to ski at 9 years old, but as a 31 year old I find myself taking a week’s vacation to go enjoy it. Both child and adult can enjoy the sport, but I wouldnt consider skiing to be childish just because an 8 year old can weave down the mountain. Show me a juvenile who can compete on par with Evan or Takeshi, and I might be on board.

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**Author:** ![chaosgow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chaosgow/32/61394_2.png) [@chaosgow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chaosgow)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/35 "2019-02-22T09:25:22Z")

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It is and isn’t a childrens toy. It’s a toy for all ages now. Gotta move past that.

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**Author:** ![ThrowButcher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwbutcher/32/54388_2.png) [@ThrowButcher](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThrowButcher)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/36 "2019-02-22T11:01:06Z")

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But… All m’goodboys love tendies with mussy and dewy. Mummy says keeps my healthy frame heavy.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/37 "2019-02-22T15:40:01Z")

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Mickey Takeshi and Hajime won worlds as basically kids. They are also the greatest players to ever come from their respected divisions. Also how old was Shinji when he first won? Not sure, but that might be a 4th kid, also the greatest to ever come from their division.

That’s besides the point though I know what you guys are saying 😁 I definitely understand the argument

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**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/38 "2019-02-22T16:32:42Z")

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To bring in an Outside sponsor the target audience would need to be defined to a prospected advertisers. Reb Bull and Moster have an EXTREME image to sell cans of high octane caffine and surgar. Coke-A-Cola has had Russell yoyos for years. Geritol has been a proud sponsor of the Lawrence Welk show for decades. What is YoYo selling that I’m not already buying?

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**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/39 "2019-02-22T16:38:40Z")

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> [@Exmime](#):
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> What is YoYo selling that I’m not already buying?

That rock n roll lifestyle.

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**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outside-sponsor/299150/40 "2019-02-22T17:11:42Z")

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There are a few Pro Yoers with great hair like @AndreBoulay and @Gentry_Stein . Hair products are always selling a lifestyle, promoters should hit up Head and Shoulders and other Procter & Gamble products.

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