# OUTLIER 6, XENON PRIME, and LOGIC 2 by OFFSET YOYOS! - OFFSET's 60mm Competition Models! **URL:** \ **Category:** YoYoExpert Releases and Restocks\ **Created:** [November 12, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093 "2025-11-12T21:21:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YoYoExpert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpert/32/71258_2.png) [@YoYoExpert](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpert)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/1 "2025-11-12T21:21:18Z")
[![Outlier6_Feature](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/9/f/49fcd8f0f2a48495c24afaed0d66628ba9b3700d.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/outlier-6-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581170835646) The [OUTLIER 6](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/outlier-6-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581170835646) is the latest signature model of Brandon Vu, designed for players who want to push their limits on stage. With a massive 60mm width, this yo-yo delivers explosive power, incredible stability, and unmatched control for high-speed competitive play. [![Brandon-Blue-Shiny-Polished-Blue-Silver-Rings-Outlier6](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/5/6c5145415cad7f0b0a0db32a57337898220ecfd1.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/outlier-6-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581170835646) [![Brandon-Blue-Shiny-Polished-Blue-Silver-Rings-Outlier6-02](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/4/c/b4cdabdcb29a61d3759702fd484b4cbe16085997.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/outlier-6-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581170835646) [![Brandon-Blue-Shiny-Polished-Blue-Silver-Rings-Outlier6-03](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/1/b/c1b85337d0148c430a5a695a68334fa1ade9f50a.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/outlier-6-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581170835646) Crafted from premium 7075 aluminum with overhanging stainless steel rims, the [OUTLIER 6](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/outlier-6-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581170835646) combines strength, precision, and power in every throw. The extreme angular shape cuts through the air with speed and accuracy, giving players the confidence to execute bold, high-risk tricks with precision. > **[Outlier 6](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/outlier-6-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581170835646)** > > The OUTLIER 6 is the latest signature model of Brandon Vu, designed for players who want to push their limits on stage. With a massive 60mm width, this yo-yo delivers explosive power, incredible stability, and unmatched control for high-speed... [![Xenon-Prime-Feature](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/f/e/7fe23bfd0aa88cb38faefdb07ac8f713fefa611b.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/xenon-prime-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581015023806) The [XENON PRIME](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/xenon-prime-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581015023806) is the signature yo-yo of Xavier Ng, designed for players who demand both performance and comfort at the highest level. Built from 6061 aluminum with POM rims and stainless steel weight rings, it blends power, balance, and comfortability. [![Xavier-Red-White-POM-Xenon-Prime](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/d/8/cd889dfe158b5a0b1a089b0b46a2ccd6edcb730d.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/xenon-prime-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581015023806) [![Xavier-Red-White-POM-Xenon-Prime-02](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/2/8/128c7b549900d64dc27c3352924b1df09b7b4593.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/xenon-prime-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581015023806) [![Xavier-Red-White-POM-Xenon-Prime-03](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/8/1/781effb17b7687277602938be15d8c46ef7b6936.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/xenon-prime-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581015023806) The stainless steel rims give it incredible spin time and stability, while the durable POM outer rims absorb impact and make risky tricks feel safer and more controlled. It’s smooth, rounded profile provides a comfortable hold and effortless play for both competition and practice. > **[Xenon Prime](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/xenon-prime-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45581015023806)** > > The XENON PRIME is the signature yo-yo of Xavier Ng, designed for players who demand both performance and comfort at the highest level. Built from 6061 aluminum with POM rims and stainless steel weight rings, it blends power, balance, and... [![Logic2_Feature](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/8/4/084c28bde2dae162de737d357e1bc0d9d9a815db.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/logic2-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45580963217598) The [LOGIC 2](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/logic2-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45580963217598) is the signature yo-yo of Australian champion Allon Chen, built for pure competition performance. Crafted from durable 7068 aluminum with inner stainless steel rims, it delivers incredible stability, speed, and control for the most demanding routines. [![Allon-Green-Gold-Rings-Logic2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/3/6/c36e0c1f9f9c40d0c7539a1c5b86bba86a79cfa8.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/logic2-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45580963217598) [![Allon-Green-Gold-Rings-Logic2-02](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/3/5/a356eca1dc7dfbaa47368bcc5eed14b1e6b26458.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/logic2-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45580963217598) [![Allon-Green-Gold-Rings-Logic2-03](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/a/8/2a8bc3558a1ec50edfb781f20929f0fe6b5c6139.jpeg)](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/logic2-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45580963217598) Allon used the [LOGIC 2](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/logic2-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45580963217598) to claim back-to-back Australian National Championships and place 10th in the world, proving its elite-level potential on stage. > **[Logic 2](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/new-releases/products/logic2-yoyo-by-offset?variant=45580963217598)** > > The LOGIC 2 is the signature yo-yo of Australian champion Allon Chen, built for pure competition performance. Crafted from durable 7068 aluminum with inner stainless steel rims, it delivers incredible stability, speed, and control for the most... ---
**Author:** ![Snoopy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snoopy/32/669143_2.png) [@Snoopy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snoopy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/2 "2025-11-12T22:40:50Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/a/4/ca4d6616bc481a02eef843120a29d8b1d6c51e59.png) ---
**Author:** ![MoxieOpal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/moxieopal/32/691989_2.png) [@MoxieOpal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MoxieOpal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/3 "2025-11-12T23:46:26Z")
Outlier 6 looks uncomfortable ---
**Author:** ![rysk\_9844](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rysk_9844/32/641377_2.png) [@rysk\_9844](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rysk_9844)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/4 "2025-11-13T07:18:25Z")
Hopefully for the next release, they’ll take a different design approach or make a new original model instead of just extending the existing flagship yoyos to 70mm (which might happen). ---
**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/5 "2025-11-13T08:19:30Z")
They did release the Limitless and Galactus relatively recently. So if you just want a new line from them then they have done stuff beyond their core lineups. ---
**Author:** ![YOYOBRANDON1942](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a5b964/32.png) [@YOYOBRANDON1942](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOYOBRANDON1942)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/6 "2025-12-21T21:48:42Z")
the xenon prime is the best out of all in the new lineup I have it and it’s a game changer for all types of tricks because of its width stability and durability thanks to its prime plastic rim if you are looking for a good colorway of the xenon prime I recommend the prime blue colorway ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/7 "2025-12-21T22:12:02Z")
I remember a time when Brandon preferred yoyos in the 42mm - 43mm range. Survival in this niche hobby requires conforming to trends, and the indisputable trend is towards ever-wider yoyos. Is there a practical upper limit to yoyo width? ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/8 "2025-12-21T23:55:52Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > Is there a practical upper limit to yoyo width? My current theory is that 187mm is much too wide ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/9 "2025-12-22T01:11:28Z")
Sure but you could say the same for the 5 organic models that release every month, those brands are just choosing a different trend to chase. There are some companies that may not exist if forum old heads like us weren’t around, that strictly survive on nostalgia for a different era. ---
**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/10 "2025-12-22T01:27:26Z")
> [@zslane](#): > > I remember a time when Brandon preferred yoyos in the 42mm - 43mm range. Survival in this niche hobby requires conforming to trends, and the indisputable trend is towards ever-wider yoyos To be fair, Brandon has played a large part in pushing width so far so quickly **the past 2-3 years** and really has been its biggest proponent. So I think implying he’s chasing trends is perhaps a bit uncharitable. Edit: boldened for emphasis ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/11 "2025-12-22T01:39:57Z")
I remember the past 7 years of steady yoyo widening differently, but this isn’t the place to hash that out. ---
**Author:** ![YOYOBRANDON1942](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a5b964/32.png) [@YOYOBRANDON1942](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOYOBRANDON1942)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/12 "2025-12-26T01:28:26Z")
you know what is comfortable? The xenon prime! ---
**Author:** ![Gym\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Gym\_Kirk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gym_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/outlier-6-xenon-prime-and-logic-2-by-offset-yoyos-offsets-60mm-competition-models/436093/13 "2025-12-26T07:18:25Z")
I find it to be super comfortable. I don’t feel the edges when I bind. Probably because it’s so wide. It also doesn’t feel heavy at all. I’m really interested in trying the Logic 2 because it’s supposed to be the floatiest of the bunch.