# Online yo-yo coaching?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [June 20, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251 "2019-06-20T16:55:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/21 "2019-06-20T20:06:30Z")

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> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/605):
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> I think you’re a better yoyoer than you give yourself credit for. You’re better than probably at least 90% of the people on this forum, so most members can definitely learn something from you.

I gotta say I agree with this _completely_. Moreover, I would not interpret a small client base as a measure of a coach’s ability, but rather a reflection of how little money most yoyoers have to throw at the problem.

Besides, given how little regard education gets from people in general, it isn’t hard to see how most yoyoers would rather put their money towards new yoyos (toys, yay!) rather than learning/training (sounds like work, boo!), especially since the Internet has made learning tricks largely cost-free today.

However, I feel that this is a potentially invaluable service, and I can foresee a point in the not-too-distant future when I will be taking Andy up on it, assuming he is still offering it then.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/22 "2019-06-20T20:07:42Z")

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I think I’m in that right in the center of that weird middle position where I’m better than the casual thrower but I’m not at a meta competition level :joy:

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/23 "2019-06-20T20:10:30Z")

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I think I’ll always be up to it because I love helping people learn and improve but I might stop “advertising” depending on interest levels.

Anyway, many people become successful(especially in the last few decades) because they began something nobody else was doing and honestly I’m surprised there isn’t really anyone out there doing something similar to this day.

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**Author:** ![TheYoyoer27](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoyoer27/32/49058_2.png) [@TheYoyoer27](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoyoer27)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/24 "2019-06-20T20:15:38Z")

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Me too! And so is @Marm!

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/25 "2019-06-20T20:19:03Z")

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Doesn’t marm compete though? I haven’t really seen much of his stuff but I just assumed he’s the best regular on the forums because I thought he competed and made finals at a contest or two

In any case I do think marm and eos are definitely better than me. I’ve never seen you throw so idk

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/26 "2019-06-20T20:36:39Z")

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> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/587):
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> Yoyo coaching is weird. Like, paid yoyo coaching online.

It is weird.

I’m with you on that one.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/27 "2019-06-20T20:42:53Z")

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You can knock what I’m doing but I think what Gentry is doing is MUCH needed. I would 100% be interested in competition coaching and training guidance. I’m not sure why that would be weird

I think Scales current competition with giving input on routines is great too

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/28 "2019-06-20T20:52:14Z")

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Yoyo coaching is fine, but paid yoyo coaching - I find that weird. Especially when you’ve got free resources online that people have spent time and money making to teach yoyo for free.

Yoyo teaching of any kind should be free. It’s just using a toy, afterall.

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**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/29 "2019-06-20T20:55:07Z")

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What do you think of physical in person lessons?

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**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/30 "2019-06-20T21:01:19Z")

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I think what your doing is great homie. If I had extra time I would too

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**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/31 "2019-06-20T21:15:28Z")

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> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/600):
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> I always wished there was someone that had a coaching system like this for myself.

Oh man i’m with you in that one. I wish i wasn’t as isolated as i am, but that never got too much in my way to get better at yoyoing.

Gotta be super honest with y’all, sometimes i feel little bitter about anyone living in the us or europe, with yoyo stores that ship stuff right to your place in matter of days, and tons of contests everywhere, and world-class players to learn from.

> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/615):
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> What do you think of physical in person lessons?

I think that should be the behaviour standard for everyone. If anyone asked me about how to do a trick i would be more than happy to teach.

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/32 "2019-06-20T21:21:09Z")

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> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/617):
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> Gotta be super honest with y’all, sometimes i feel little bitter about anyone living in the us or europe, with yoyo stores that ship stuff right to your place in matter of days, and tons of contests everywhere, and world-class players to learn from.

Oh I know EXACTLY what you mean!

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**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/33 "2019-06-20T21:31:43Z")

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I think throwing around more people that throw can really speed up your progress in terms of learning cool new elements and what scores well and getting instant feedback.

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/34 "2019-06-20T21:32:26Z")

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> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/615):
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> What do you think of physical in person lessons?

Great! Sometimes I wish I had them myself.

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**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/35 "2019-06-20T22:09:37Z")

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Saying that yoyo coaching should be free on the basis of yoyos being toys is insane. That line of logic could be applied to anything; Maybe we should sell yoyos for free as well because they’re toys?

Any time someone takes time out of there day to teach something, an exchange of money is reasonable.

Showing someone a trick or giving pointers is one thing, but spending time with someone and helping them through areas they struggle uniquely is another. It’s all about how deep someone wants to go, and there’s definitely a point at which the instructor is giving so much of their time that payment is in order.

Just to be clear also, I’m not calling you insane Glen. I think you’re a great dude.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/36 "2019-06-20T22:14:31Z")

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In principle, yeah, but in reality it is the marketplace that determines the monetary value of something. If nobody is willing to pay for something, no matter how much effort that something took to provide, then it is effectively worth nothing. The music industry has been learning this lesson the hard way over the course of the last decade or so.

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**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/37 "2019-06-20T22:15:47Z")

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This is _very_ true.

All of what we’re saying is just conjecture.

Whether paid yoyo coaching is out of place or not will be determined by whether slots fill or not.

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**Author:** ![gregoryfromearth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregoryfromearth/32/46140_2.png) [@gregoryfromearth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gregoryfromearth)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/38 "2019-06-20T22:23:36Z")

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> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/617):
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> Gotta be super honest with y’all, sometimes i feel little bitter about anyone living in the us or europe, with yoyo stores that ship stuff right to your place in matter of days, and tons of contests everywhere, and world-class players to learn from.

It is easy for us in the US to take this for granted particularly the shipping. I imagine I’d be a little bitter too.

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**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/39 "2019-06-20T22:24:22Z")

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We are also all pretty spoiled by Amazon. I am constantly reminding myself that not everything moves at the speed of Amazon…not even Amazon sometimes.

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**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/online-yo-yo-coaching/304251/40 "2019-06-20T22:26:53Z")

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> [@Unpopular Yoyo Opinions](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/unpopular-yoyo-opinions/296554/621):
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> Saying that yoyo coaching should be free on the basis of yoyos being toys is insane. That line of logic could be applied to anything; Maybe we should sell yoyos for free as well because they’re toys?

That line of reasoning is not the same.

And yes, we should give yoyos away for free to the right people.

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