# Once and for all - hybrid or dual o-ring??? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 15, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312 "2009-07-15T21:40:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![goyobro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@goyobro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/goyobro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/1 "2009-07-15T21:40:19Z")
Well im still trying to decide on a yoyo and this choice is killing me! šŸ˜› Let me hear any suggestions or comparisons you have of the o-rings and hybrids PLEASE ;D i really appreciate it!! PS i will probably switch the o-rings out with silicone in either response type. ---
**Author:** ![polloyoyo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@polloyoyo12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/polloyoyo12)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/2 "2009-07-15T21:42:19Z")
if you replace the orings with silicone or silicone orings the hybrid will be just a little responsive because of the starburst and the dual oring will be completely unresponsive ---
**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/3 "2009-07-15T21:43:30Z")
I would go with Dual o-ring if you want unresponsive. Hybrid will be a little responsive, unless you widen the gap, like a dark magic. ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/4 "2009-07-15T21:57:39Z")
Most people prefer double O-ring because then you can get double silicone. And now to talk about this: > [@Mattsk8nike](#): > > I would go with Dual o-ring if you want unresponsive. > Hybrid will be a little responsive, unless you widen the gap, like a dark magic. Hybrid isnā€™t more responsive than double O-ring. I find that two O-rings rub the string more than hybrid. And if you really like a yoyo that can only be bought with hybrid, buy two and have a double O-ring yoyo and a double starburst yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/5 "2009-07-15T22:00:04Z")
> [@Pheenix](#): > > Most people prefer double O-ring because then you can get double silicone. And now to talk about this: > > > [@Mattsk8nike](#): > > > > I would go with Dual o-ring if you want unresponsive. > > Hybrid will be a little responsive, unless you widen the gap, like a dark magic. > > Hybrid isnā€™t more responsive than double O-ring. I find that two O-rings rub the string more than hybrid. And if you really like a yoyo that can only be bought with hybrid, buy two and have a double O-ring yoyo and a double starburst yoyo. Hm. I just figured because with my DM, It feels more grabby than double o-ring. ---
**Author:** ![DaShiznit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dashiznit/32/62_2.png) [@DaShiznit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaShiznit)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/6 "2009-07-15T22:07:10Z")
Back on topic. I personally like Dual O-ring. To me, it feels a little more like silicone pads (which Iā€™m used to). Hybrid though is great too. When I first started using it though, I had a bad throw and the starburst constantly was hitting the string and it got to me. Now, I donā€™t have that problem and I love it. If you want my recommendation though, I pick Dual O-ring. ;D ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/7 "2009-07-15T22:08:22Z")
> [@Mattsk8nike](#): > > > [@Pheenix](#): > > > > Most people prefer double O-ring because then you can get double silicone. And now to talk about this: > > > > > [@Mattsk8nike](#): > > > > > > I would go with Dual o-ring if you want unresponsive. > > > Hybrid will be a little responsive, unless you widen the gap, like a dark magic. > > > > Hybrid isnā€™t more responsive than double O-ring. I find that two O-rings rub the string more than hybrid. And if you really like a yoyo that can only be bought with hybrid, buy two and have a double O-ring yoyo and a double starburst yoyo. > > Hm. I just figured because with my DM, It feels more grabby than double o-ring. In comparison to what? ---
**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/8 "2009-07-15T22:08:56Z")
> [@Pheenix](#): > > > [@Mattsk8nike](#): > > > > > [@Pheenix](#): > > > > > > Most people prefer double O-ring because then you can get double silicone. And now to talk about this: > > > > > > > [@Mattsk8nike](#): > > > > > > > > I would go with Dual o-ring if you want unresponsive. > > > > Hybrid will be a little responsive, unless you widen the gap, like a dark magic. > > > > > > Hybrid isnā€™t more responsive than double O-ring. I find that two O-rings rub the string more than hybrid. And if you really like a yoyo that can only be bought with hybrid, buy two and have a double O-ring yoyo and a double starburst yoyo. > > > > Hm. I just figured because with my DM, It feels more grabby than double o-ring. > > In comparison to what? X-convict. ---
**Author:** ![goyobro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@goyobro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/goyobro)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/9 "2009-07-15T22:23:32Z")
just comparison to each other haha ---
**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/10 "2009-07-16T00:22:24Z")
Well, I only have hybrid and they are not responsive at all for me. They do have really responsive binds for me though. But still, I only have hybrids. ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/11 "2009-07-16T00:34:28Z")
Both of the responses are my favorite, but they can be responsive/un-responsive. I like Hybrid better. My Hybrid Hitman is just awesome. I have straight throws, and with my Lyn Fury, the string always touches the response. ---
**Author:** ![goyobro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@goyobro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/goyobro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/12 "2009-07-16T14:38:01Z")
Well im looking for something that binds really tight and really easily. The DM sounds good cuz it sleeps long but im not sure if the hybrid would be too grabby without binding. Will the HM sleep as long as the DM? Which response would better suit what im looking for? ??? ---
**Author:** ![knobbemoki1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/knobbemoki1/32/28_2.png) [@knobbemoki1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/knobbemoki1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/13 "2009-07-16T14:54:44Z")
Get double o ring and silicone it. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/14 "2009-07-16T14:54:54Z")
Neither will sleep longer. The determining factor in sleep time is your throw. Work on it and it wonā€™t matter which one you get because it will sleep plenty long to do your tricks. šŸ˜ƒ I personally like hybrid over dual o-ring. I do actually like dual starburst over hybrid, but for this topic I like hybrid. Rubber is grippier than plastic so it grabs the string more when it hits it as compared to the plastic that is the starburst. However, the starburst still gives great binds and contrary to many peopleā€™s beliefs, starburst in and of itself is not responsive. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/15 "2009-07-16T15:43:11Z")
Like Apetrunk saidā€¦ itā€™s all preference. ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/16 "2009-07-16T21:04:54Z")
> [@goyobro](#): > > Well im looking for something that binds really tight and really easily. The DM sounds good cuz it sleeps long but im not sure if the hybrid would be too grabby without binding. Will the HM sleep as long as the DM? Which response would better suit what im looking for? ??? Well, it is all preference on what youā€™d want. Both can be responsive/un-responsive, and the Dark Magic can bind greatly. The Hitman has the same response, and thereā€™s also a double o-ring Hitman. It depends all on your throw. I have a Hybrid Hitman, and a Dark Magic. My Dark Magic can sleep longer, and I do equal throws on each Yo-Yo. I will have to side with the Dark Magic, based on your questions. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![dcgreen97](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dcgreen97/32/210_2.png) [@dcgreen97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dcgreen97)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/17 "2009-07-16T23:43:21Z")
I say hybrid. If Speeder is hybrid, which I think it is. I have to bind with my Speeder, and the bind works even if it is barely spinning. Of course, I donā€™t know much about binds. I just land it, wrap it, and Iā€™m done. Hahaā€¦ I slay myself sometimes. But I love the hybrid response. ---
**Author:** ![goyobro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@goyobro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/goyobro)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/18 "2009-07-16T23:57:21Z")
If im gonna get a hybrid, should i switch the o-ring with silicone? What difference would it make and how would it compare to double silicone? Ya, i have no xperience wit anythin but worn friction stickers šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/19 "2009-07-17T00:05:32Z")
You technically donā€™t have to switch it but if you want, the silicone supposedly gives a tighter bind and it reduces friction because it is flush not protruding. Addition: You can cut to Orings to make is flush or recessed. Also, the silicone can be responsive when you first put it in but will ā€œbreak inā€ (Similar to a bearing) ---
**Author:** ![goyobro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@goyobro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/goyobro)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312/20 "2009-07-17T02:49:39Z")
šŸ˜ƒ Thanx for the help everyone! It reallyā€¦helped! I decided on the DM!! I was a little hesitant to try the hybrid, but almost everyone seems to be happy with it and i can always replace the o-ring with silicone if its a little too responsive. I liked the DM for its weight and spin time. I think the HM might have been a little too small for my liking. The DM is a yoyo i dont think i can go wrong with. Thanx again for the help all! Cant wait to get my Dark Magic!!! ;D [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/once-and-for-all-hybrid-or-dual-o-ring/4312.md?page=2)