# Old Thread
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106
**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews
**Created:** [September 1, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106 "2009-09-01T08:03:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Emptysea](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Emptysea)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/21 "2009-09-03T06:47:54Z")
I’m glad that you are having a great time with the yoyo. The number stats for people to look at are questionable I guess, but to me it really matters how you feel about the yoyo and I’m glad that your excited about the new yoyo. I’m slightly bummed out because by the time I get money to get this yoyo they will be sold out already and then I will have missed out on their yoyo. I wanted to get my first all metal yoyo from YYJ sadly they don’t have many.
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### Author:  [@GorrillaYo808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GorrillaYo808)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/22 "2009-09-03T07:43:31Z")
> [@Pheenix](#):
>
> We had a coach in cross-country once He used to say: “I’m not going to tell you about the good things you do, your parents give you enough of that already.” I’m not going to talk about the good parts of this review, as it is and will be mentioned by other members.
>
> First off, the rating system. I’ve expressed myself so many times on this matter, and I’d gladly do it again. A rating system just shows subjectiveness, you want a review to be as objectve as possible though, so it’s not a good idea. And the fact that you gave it 10/10 makes it even more biased and reveals that you could have been more critic.
>
> It’s great that you include pics, but I think you might have gone over the top here. The amount of pictures was just immense… too immense. You also went a bit overboard with the smileys and text effects. These are all pretty nifty effects, but I wouldn’t reccomend using them in a review.
>
> Also some minor spelling/grammar errors here and there, but those happen all the time.
>
> Addment: As I said, you have so many people that will tell you how good this review is. And like my coach said: “Pointing out things you already can do won’t make you any better, you need to find the things you can’t do.”
Thanks man, i’ll know what to improve on in my next review. However, i don’t feel that my pictures are too much. I’m just trying to cover the entire product itself. The “smileys” add feeling and emotion. I also try not to be biased because not all the scores i gave were not 10/10…i took the 3 scores and averaged it out. i’ve also pointed out some bad points (hint 24k?).
Anyways thanks for reading my review, hope you enjoyed it or not…
-gorrillayo808
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### Author:  [@GorrillaYo808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GorrillaYo808)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/23 "2009-09-03T07:45:41Z")
> [@Evan](#):
>
> Great Detailed the review, one of the best reviewers.
>
> The NM5 seems more of a collectors iteam to me, but I am not saying it can’t play, just seems collector-ish.
Yep, mostly a collectors item, but still playable. i stated that…under (notes) 🙂
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### Author:  [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/24 "2009-09-03T15:14:17Z")
> [@GorrillaYo808](#):
>
> > [@Pheenix](#):
> >
> > We had a coach in cross-country once He used to say: “I’m not going to tell you about the good things you do, your parents give you enough of that already.” I’m not going to talk about the good parts of this review, as it is and will be mentioned by other members.
> >
> > First off, the rating system. I’ve expressed myself so many times on this matter, and I’d gladly do it again. A rating system just shows subjectiveness, you want a review to be as objectve as possible though, so it’s not a good idea. And the fact that you gave it 10/10 makes it even more biased and reveals that you could have been more critic.
> >
> > It’s great that you include pics, but I think you might have gone over the top here. The amount of pictures was just immense… too immense. You also went a bit overboard with the smileys and text effects. These are all pretty nifty effects, but I wouldn’t reccomend using them in a review.
> >
> > Also some minor spelling/grammar errors here and there, but those happen all the time.
> >
> > Addment: As I said, you have so many people that will tell you how good this review is. And like my coach said: “Pointing out things you already can do won’t make you any better, you need to find the things you can’t do.”
>
> Thanks man, i’ll know what to improve on in my next review. However, i don’t feel that my pictures are too much. I’m just trying to cover the entire product itself. The “smileys” add feeling and emotion. I also try not to be biased because not all the scores i gave were not 10/10…i took the 3 scores and averaged it out. i’ve also pointed out some bad points (hint 24k?).
>
> Anyways thanks for reading my review, hope you enjoyed it or not…
>
> -gorrillayo808
I saw several pictures that shoed pretty much the same there. This is a review, not a novel or a short story, you don’t need feeling and emotion. You need to display and describe the product to the tiniest detail. If you get 3 scores and at least one of them is less than 10/10, the average will never be 10/10. And even though you did cover bad stuff, you still managed to end up at 10/10. If there were some bad stuff, how come it’s possible to give it a perfect score. Perfect=perfect.
Addment: I’d just drop the whole rating idea if I were you though.
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### Author:  [@ijuggleyoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ijuggleyoyos)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/25 "2009-09-03T17:28:44Z")
great review!!! but its second to your dv888 one :wink:
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### Author:  [@GorrillaYo808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GorrillaYo808)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/26 "2009-09-03T21:00:14Z")
> [@Pheenix](#):
>
> > [@GorrillaYo808](#):
> >
> > > [@Pheenix](#):
> > >
> > > We had a coach in cross-country once He used to say: “I’m not going to tell you about the good things you do, your parents give you enough of that already.” I’m not going to talk about the good parts of this review, as it is and will be mentioned by other members.
> > >
> > > First off, the rating system. I’ve expressed myself so many times on this matter, and I’d gladly do it again. A rating system just shows subjectiveness, you want a review to be as objectve as possible though, so it’s not a good idea. And the fact that you gave it 10/10 makes it even more biased and reveals that you could have been more critic.
> > >
> > > It’s great that you include pics, but I think you might have gone over the top here. The amount of pictures was just immense… too immense. You also went a bit overboard with the smileys and text effects. These are all pretty nifty effects, but I wouldn’t reccomend using them in a review.
> > >
> > > Also some minor spelling/grammar errors here and there, but those happen all the time.
> > >
> > > Addment: As I said, you have so many people that will tell you how good this review is. And like my coach said: “Pointing out things you already can do won’t make you any better, you need to find the things you can’t do.”
> >
> > Thanks man, i’ll know what to improve on in my next review. However, i don’t feel that my pictures are too much. I’m just trying to cover the entire product itself. The “smileys” add feeling and emotion. I also try not to be biased because not all the scores i gave were not 10/10…i took the 3 scores and averaged it out. i’ve also pointed out some bad points (hint 24k?).
> >
> > Anyways thanks for reading my review, hope you enjoyed it or not…
> >
> > -gorrillayo808
>
> I saw several pictures that shoed pretty much the same there. This is a review, not a novel or a short story, you don’t need feeling and emotion. You need to display and describe the product to the tiniest detail. If you get 3 scores and at least one of them is less than 10/10, the average will never be 10/10. And even though you did cover bad stuff, you still managed to end up at 10/10. If there were some bad stuff, how come it’s possible to give it a perfect score. Perfect=perfect.
>
> Addment: I’d just drop the whole rating idea if I were you though.
ill fix it the score, it is officialy 9.8 hahaha
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### Author:  [@ElendilAndurilz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ElendilAndurilz)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/27 "2009-09-19T22:39:55Z")
> [@JonasK](#):
>
> We had a coach in cross-country once He used to say: “I’m not going to tell you about the good things you do, your parents give you enough of that already.” I’m not going to talk about the good parts of this review, as it is and will be mentioned by other members.
>
> First off, the rating system. I’ve expressed myself so many times on this matter, and I’d gladly do it again. A rating system just shows subjectiveness, you want a review to be as objectve as possible though, so it’s not a good idea. And the fact that you gave it 10/10 makes it even more biased and reveals that you could have been more critic.
>
> It’s great that you include pics, but I think you might have gone over the top here. The amount of pictures was just immense… too immense. You also went a bit overboard with the smileys and text effects. These are all pretty nifty effects, but I wouldn’t reccomend using them in a review.
>
> Also some minor spelling/grammar errors here and there, but those happen all the time.
>
> Addment: As I said, you have so many people that will tell you how good this review is. And like my coach said: “Pointing out things you already can do won’t make you any better, you need to find the things you can’t do.”
I’m agreeing a bit with Jonas on this one. Scaled reviews are pretty ridiculous. I also felt that you failed to critique this yoyo harshly enough. It’s very common these days to simply hype up a yoyo that you like, without taking the time to fully understand its shortcomings. (The NM5 has a horrid bearing seat like any other YYJ, causing it to have the classic YYJ vibe. At over $100 as a price point, this is utterly unacceptable in my opinion. The need to step up the machining quality, or re-design the seat. It’s a SIMPLE problem that they’ve failed to fix for many years now.)
Still a good review, and I can really see the effort you put into it. These are just some recommendations for next time!
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### Author:  [@GorrillaYo808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GorrillaYo808)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/28 "2009-09-20T01:59:18Z")
> [@ElendilAndurilz](#):
>
> > [@JonasK](#):
> >
> > We had a coach in cross-country once He used to say: “I’m not going to tell you about the good things you do, your parents give you enough of that already.” I’m not going to talk about the good parts of this review, as it is and will be mentioned by other members.
> >
> > First off, the rating system. I’ve expressed myself so many times on this matter, and I’d gladly do it again. A rating system just shows subjectiveness, you want a review to be as objectve as possible though, so it’s not a good idea. And the fact that you gave it 10/10 makes it even more biased and reveals that you could have been more critic.
> >
> > It’s great that you include pics, but I think you might have gone over the top here. The amount of pictures was just immense… too immense. You also went a bit overboard with the smileys and text effects. These are all pretty nifty effects, but I wouldn’t reccomend using them in a review.
> >
> > Also some minor spelling/grammar errors here and there, but those happen all the time.
> >
> > Addment: As I said, you have so many people that will tell you how good this review is. And like my coach said: “Pointing out things you already can do won’t make you any better, you need to find the things you can’t do.”
>
> I’m agreeing a bit with Jonas on this one. Scaled reviews are pretty ridiculous. I also felt that you failed to critique this yoyo harshly enough. It’s very common these days to simply hype up a yoyo that you like, without taking the time to fully understand its shortcomings. (The NM5 has a horrid bearing seat like any other YYJ, causing it to have the classic YYJ vibe. At over $100 as a price point, this is utterly unacceptable in my opinion. The need to step up the machining quality, or re-design the seat. It’s a SIMPLE problem that they’ve failed to fix for many years now.)
>
> Still a good review, and I can really see the effort you put into it. These are just some recommendations for next time!
I think that the yyj bearing seats are better than yyf or any other bearing seats for that matter. YYJ bearing seats are bigger allowing the bearing to be removed without a plyer. YYF bearing seats hold on to the bearing, thus you need a plyer to remove it. :wink:
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### Author:  [@evnouski](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/evnouski)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/old-thread/6106/29 "2009-12-14T07:34:12Z")
great review, i am most defiantly getting on with my next paycheck. can you believe that the people commented more on the the new boxes than on the actual yoyo! :🙂 anyway great job an i look forward to reading another review from ya.
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