# Okay, I need some serious help here. 2 of my yoyo's are messed up. **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [September 9, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803 "2011-09-09T16:35:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DangerYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dangeryoyo/32/527_2.png) [@DangerYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DangerYoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/1 "2011-09-09T16:35:14Z")
Alright, well, first yoyo: YYJ Hitman 1 Hybrid response Plays really nice, but sometimes slides when I throw a sleeper The one big problem, it makes tons of noise. Nothing’s in the bearing seat, I’ve used different bearings, but nothing seems to work. My HM is a noise maker. X-Convict I used to really like it, but now it’s just horrible. It barely even spins, I’ve changed the bearing, and it’s just horrible. I really want to get these fixed up. I plan on maybe doing some trades soon, Thanks! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![zeelp3mta3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zeelp3mta3/32/897_2.png) [@zeelp3mta3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zeelp3mta3)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/2 "2011-09-09T16:54:02Z")
It sounds like the HM side caps or Pogs are loose common with yoyojam try useing a suction cup to take them off and see if the noise gose away. For the slideing broblem im not sure what you meen but if you meen the string on the bearing mabe try a centertrak or kk. And a lot of practice will go along way for a strong steady sleeper. For the x-convict try cleaning the bearing and makeing sure their is nothing in the bearing seat may help if your not getting the spin time you are looking for. Saying it is now horrible dosent really convey what may be making it so horrible now. ---
**Author:** ![DangerYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dangeryoyo/32/527_2.png) [@DangerYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DangerYoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/3 "2011-09-09T18:35:42Z")
My hitman doesn’t even have side caps, haha For the xconvict, I did all that, but It still doesnt spin that long. Either way, thanks for your reply. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/4 "2011-09-10T01:16:29Z")
Noisey HM - lube the bearing. Should quiet it down considerably. Also the star burst will make some noise. Xcon - are you aware that it has an adjustable gap? Open it up some. Also make sure the o-rings are seated firmly. Did you pull the shields when you cleaned it? Blow it out when you were done? ---
**Author:** ![DangerYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dangeryoyo/32/527_2.png) [@DangerYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DangerYoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/5 "2011-09-10T19:42:28Z")
Dude. I changed the bearing on BOTH of them, and it’s still the same. ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/6 "2011-09-10T20:47:39Z")
Who cares about a little noise seriously, some bearings are just loud. For the x-con, as jhb said, the bearing isn’t every thing. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/7 "2011-09-11T00:52:17Z")
> [@DangerYoyo](#): > > Dude. I changed the bearing on BOTH of them, and it’s still the same. Maybe you messed up cleaning/lubing both bearings. :wink: With the 2 yoyos you have, there’s really nothing else to affect the response or noise than the bearings. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/8 "2011-09-11T01:13:53Z")
Shims on the X-Convict and slicone cone the orings. And also slicone the oring on the Hybrid Hitman. To make the Hitman quieter, a drop of lube on the bearing. ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/9 "2011-09-11T02:19:21Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > Shims on the X-Convict and slicone cone the orings. And also slicone the oring on the Hybrid Hitman. To make the Hitman quieter, a drop of lube on the bearing. A drop is waaaaaaay too much. Just put some on the tip of a pin and touch one of the balls (after deshielding). ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/10 "2011-09-11T02:57:36Z")
Actually, a drop of thin lube is perfect to quiet the bearing down. Will break in after a few throws. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/11 "2011-09-11T05:46:55Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > Shims on the X-Convict and slicone cone the orings. And also slicone the oring on the Hybrid Hitman. To make the Hitman quieter, a drop of lube on the bearing. Geez, I never had to do that to either my HM or my xcon and they both play very nice. It’s not all that hard kids, there’s not a lot of technology involved here. ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/12 "2011-09-11T13:54:12Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > Actually, a drop of thin lube is perfect to quiet the bearing down. Will break in after a few hundred throws. Fixed. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/13 "2011-09-11T14:11:16Z")
> [@nobody](#): > > > [@yoyospirit](#): > > > > Actually, a drop of thin lube is perfect to quiet the bearing down. Will break in after a few hundred throws. > > Fixed. Breaks in after only like 5 throws for me. Take it from someone with more experience. Takes a long time with a Spec bearing, but not with other types. ---
**Author:** ![Gibby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/59ef9b/32.png) [@Gibby](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gibby)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/14 "2011-09-19T23:58:55Z")
the response is probably out or needs to be changed, that probably why its sliding ---
**Author:** ![DangerYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dangeryoyo/32/527_2.png) [@DangerYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DangerYoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/15 "2011-09-23T04:14:14Z")
> [@nobody](#): > > Who cares about a little noise seriously, some bearings are just loud. > > For the x-con, as jhb said, the bearing isn’t every thing. A ‘little’ noise? Jeese why do you think I’m asking for help? I could use it as an alarm clock. And fOr the other comments- do you think I havent tried that yet? 3 drops of lube won’t even change it at all. Cmon guys! ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/16 "2011-09-23T11:19:51Z")
It’s not the bearing right now, it’s the yoyo. I find YYJ Bi-metals to be very loud. Not to mention the starburst response. As the X-Convict, just check the bearing seat for any bits of silicone or dirt. And check if the walls of the bearing seat are touching the yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/17 "2011-09-23T13:30:19Z")
> [@DangerYoyo](#): > > A ‘little’ noise? Jeese why do you think I’m asking for help? I could use it as an alarm clock. And fOr the other comments- do you think I havent tried that yet? 3 drops of lube won’t even change it at all. Cmon guys! Then are you sure it’s bearing noise and not the star burst? 3 drops should make it quieter (depending on what you call a drop of course). ---
**Author:** ![DangerYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dangeryoyo/32/527_2.png) [@DangerYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DangerYoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/18 "2011-09-23T14:15:51Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > > [@DangerYoyo](#): > > > > A ‘little’ noise? Jeese why do you think I’m asking for help? I could use it as an alarm clock. And fOr the other comments- do you think I havent tried that yet? 3 drops of lube won’t even change it at all. Cmon guys! > > Then are you sure it’s bearing noise and not the star burst? 3 drops should make it quieter (depending on what you call a drop of course). It could be. Any suggestions on what to do? [By drop I mean squeezing it untill a drop falls out] ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/19 "2011-09-23T14:26:31Z")
If it’s star burst noise, there’s not much you can do. I have a HM like that but it’s not overly loud. Are you taking the shields off when you lube it or just putting it on the shield? What type of lube are you using? ---
**Author:** ![DangerYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dangeryoyo/32/527_2.png) [@DangerYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DangerYoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803/20 "2011-09-23T15:11:51Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > If it’s star burst noise, there’s not much you can do. I have a HM like that but it’s not overly loud. Are you taking the shields off when you lube it or just putting it on the shield? What type of lube are you using? I put lube after I clean it, with the shields off. I’ve used V4M and YYJ thin lube. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/okay-i-need-some-serious-help-here-2-of-my-yoyos-are-messed-up/29803.md?page=2)