# offstring starting **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 4, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704 "2010-10-04T12:24:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OpTiC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/51bf81/32.png) [@OpTiC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OpTiC)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/1 "2010-10-04T12:24:49Z")
hi i want to start off string and im wondering whats a good offstring yoyo to start when your just learning some basic tricks? ---
**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/2 "2010-10-04T12:30:04Z")
Duncan Hayabusa, Shinwoo Griffin Wing, or YYJ Fiesta are all great 4A throws for both beginner and advanced players. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/3 "2010-10-04T12:44:55Z")
I would honestly suggest starting with something you already have. If you have a decent background in 1a, it might take a day or two at the most to be able to start catching the yoyo consistently. I started on a SpinMaster 2 (an older YYJ metal rimmed yoyo) and it took me about a day and a half to get there. If you have a responsive (or just narrow gapped) yoyo, try using that for a while. Then it’ll be that much easier when you get an actual 4a yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ariq_PGM_2)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/4 "2010-10-04T19:08:11Z")
Hayabusa are the best. Do not buy the Soft Landing ones because it will not bounce high but instead roll on the floor. Why i said hayabusa are the best is because they use bolt and nut system. And when you are playing offstring you WILL drop the yoyo alot. And the axle might break after some time. And for the hayabusa, you cab easily change the axle by taking out the bolt and nut where as for the Fiesta or anything that use the axle and threads, the axle will be stuck and will be hard or impossible to take out when it breaks ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/5 "2010-10-04T20:28:12Z")
I started on a hyabusa sl and was a great 4a player ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/6 "2010-10-04T22:17:42Z")
Unless you’re doing 4a off of a roof or balcony or something ridiculous like that, the axle breaking is definitely not a likely happening. ---
**Author:** ![OpTiC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/51bf81/32.png) [@OpTiC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OpTiC)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/7 "2010-10-04T23:54:47Z")
ok so im thinking about the hayabusa to start 4a…is it also good for some intermediate-beggining advanced tricks for 1a? ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/8 "2010-10-05T00:00:00Z")
I say a Hayabusa,since it is smaller, once you get a Fiesta (example) it will be much easier to catch it. Good choices would also be: FIESTA (LOVE IT), Big yo (bigger=easier catch zone), Griffin Wing (just because Mike likes it), or maybe a Zeekio Bird (■■■■■■■. Ask England1414 bout it). Hope I helped! ---
**Author:** ![Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ariq_PGM_2)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/9 "2010-10-05T09:01:16Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#): > > Unless you’re doing 4a off of a roof or balcony or something ridiculous like that, the axle breaking is definitely not a likely happening. Nope. We people in who plays HARDCORE OFFSTRING break axles. My friend has a Fiesta which he broke the axle and the axle is stuck so it is beyond repair. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/10 "2010-10-05T13:10:16Z")
> [@Ariq](#): > > Nope. We people in who plays HARDCORE OFFSTRING break axles. My friend has a Fiesta which he broke the axle and the axle is stuck so it is beyond repair. What does “hardcore offstring” entail? You can get the axle out. There are “drill bits” that you can get that are for removing screws when the heads are stripped (or totally removed). ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/11 "2010-10-05T15:54:50Z")
People who play hardcore offstring are also playing stupid offstring. It’s not about throwing the yoyo high and not catching it to see if it can stand the hit, which is what I’m sure hardcore offstring entails. ---
**Author:** ![Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ariq_PGM_2)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/12 "2010-10-05T16:05:33Z")
By hardcore offstring, i meant that somebody will play offstring every second and do those tricks which is very risky and it will make you yoyo drop alot. Look at Lim Aik Hwee. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/13 "2010-10-05T17:32:03Z")
> [@Ariq](#): > > By hardcore offstring, i meant that somebody will play offstring every second and do those tricks which is very risky and it will make you yoyo drop alot. Look at Lim Aik Hwee. So…somebody that does offstring. Big deal. I drop my 4a yoyos all the time. Never have I had an axle break. Did you mean what Q said: throwing the yoyo really high in the air and all that stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@Ariq\_PGM\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Ariq_PGM_2)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/14 "2010-10-05T17:52:56Z")
No. Normal play will also have axle breakage. But it will be after quite a long time ---
**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-starting/19704/15 "2010-10-05T18:05:11Z")
> [@Ariq](#): > > But it will be after quite a long time That probably should have been stated before, would have save everyone some confusion.