# Offstring mods and tips
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [October 4, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877 "2013-10-04T22:26:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@DanTheYoYoMan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DanTheYoYoMan)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877/1 "2013-10-04T22:26:16Z")
I have a ben conde go big and I can do the basic tricks like whips and pops. I am wanting to get more advanced and learn finger grinds and stuff like that. I have a yoyo glove and I can do finger grinds on my arctic circle but not on my go big any tips for that. Also I watch ben conde offstring and his spins alot longer than mine. I know most yoyoers mod there yoyos so I was wondering if there was amod to make it spin longer other than just lube. Also if you could just tell me any good mods for a go big
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### Author:  [@LeftyLink](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyLink)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877/2 "2013-10-04T22:31:55Z")
I don’t do 4A, but i believe it has to do with the amount of experience you have. Much like in 1A, the more you practice, the longer it will spin.
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### Author:  [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877/3 "2013-10-04T22:33:08Z")
> [@LeftyLink](#):
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> I don’t do 4A, but i believe it has to do with the amount of experience you have. Much like in 1A, the more you practice, the longer it will spin.
Exactly this.
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### Author:  [@DanTheYoYoMan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DanTheYoYoMan)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877/4 "2013-10-04T23:54:44Z")
So are there any tips for finger grinds I can seem to hold them for very long
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### Author:  [@aznnboyaZ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aznnboyaZ)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877/5 "2013-10-04T23:55:18Z")
> [@DanTheYoYoMan](#):
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> So are there any tips for finger grinds I can seem to hold them for very long
wear a glove, or give up for now, an revisit them when you get more advanced
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### Author:  [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877/6 "2013-10-05T01:43:25Z")
> [@DanTheYoYoMan](#):
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> So are there any tips for finger grinds I can seem to hold them for very long
Well.
I put it together. It seems that your a beginner/intermediate.
Your yoyo wont sleep that long because your not throwing it hard enough. So that explains thumb grinds. Short spin, short grinds.
Just practice like 20 at a time, throw catch bind. Try throwing it harder, without throwing it high. I can get a super hard throw, without hitting my ceiling in my room.
You will get it, just do the basic tricks. I cant even do thumb grinds. (Aiming issues lol)
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offstring-mods-and-tips/59877/7 "2013-10-05T04:26:43Z")
1: As has been said, practice.
2: The bearing plays a big factor. The older N-sized bearings with the cruddy cages tend to be OK. The new plastic-caged ones are OK, but usually not all that great. The new ones with the 10-balls and the cage that completely wraps around the balls in the bearing tends to be the best.
3: Along with quality of bearing, clean it out and don’t lube it. Run that sucker dry. Well, you can lube using the pin/dip method, but I use Dry Play.
4: Grinds: Remove the cap, it will give you more to to hook into for thumb grinds. For hand and finger grinds, that rubber rim is a friction beast so it’s a good think you’re using a glove: On your NON-throw hand! Feel free to use two gloves.
5: Response: Use pads, don’t silicone. I find silicone tears out fast in off-strings. Learn from my mistakes.
6: When you do a normal 4A throw, when you grab the string with your non-throw-hand, pull DOWN a little. That seems to make the yoyo shoot UP and back towards you and increasing spin.