# Offset deviant+ or other options **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 4, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211 "2024-10-04T21:55:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Salablesix8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Salablesix8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Salablesix8)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/1 "2024-10-04T21:55:59Z")
Hi, Have a shutter, but feels like it runs out of juice at the end of tricks. Bearing issue only? What is considered the top bearings? Anyway, been eyeing the outlier deviant normal or +. Anyone have any insight as to if these would be better or other recommendations. Also been looking a little bit at the IQ. Advice received with gratitude. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/2 "2024-10-04T22:22:28Z")
Welcome to the forums! I have a deviant plus so I can tell you about it. What would you like to know? ---
**Author:** ![zaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zaf/32/235871_2.png) [@zaf](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zaf)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/3 "2024-10-05T03:38:17Z")
Deviant and deviant+ both should get a decent bit more spin time but you could also get a shortcut or ultracut for cheaper and have it spin just as long if not longer ---
**Author:** ![Salablesix8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Salablesix8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Salablesix8)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/4 "2024-10-05T04:51:37Z")
What do you think about it? And do you end up using it or grabbing other yoyo? ---
**Author:** ![Salablesix8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Salablesix8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Salablesix8)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/5 "2024-10-05T04:59:32Z")
Thanks, tried searching a bit, but couldn’t really find anything on the Ultracut. Seemed like it was in pre-release still? ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/6 "2024-10-06T23:04:14Z")
I’m probably not the best person to ask for do you choose it over other yoyos as I only have four yoyos despite yoyoing for ~2 years. That being said however, I love the Deviant +. It’s stable and wide and spins for a long time. I can hit all my hard horizontal tricks on it and it doesn’t seem to interfere with tech for me although I don’t have the techiest tricks. If you are looking for pure spin time, I have won a long sleeper contest with the Deviant +. Usable spin time, when I am doing tricks I never notice it running out of spin during the middle of a combo. Hope this helps you. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask! ---
**Author:** ![Salablesix8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Salablesix8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Salablesix8)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/7 "2024-10-07T18:13:28Z")
Much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![zaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zaf/32/235871_2.png) [@zaf](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zaf)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/8 "2024-10-07T18:32:43Z")
Eary release at cnyc. Also, offset stuff seems to be a bit fragile. I’ve had 2 bend on me and somebody else got a dent in the body from a 5a cw ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/9 "2024-10-07T20:00:00Z")
I have 3 Offset yo-yos all of them working fine after a year of playing with them. Still quite smooth despite dings. No bending. The yo-yos are made of the same metals as many other yo-yos so there is no reason Offset yo-yos would dent over any other company’s. ---
**Author:** ![zaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zaf/32/235871_2.png) [@zaf](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zaf)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/10 "2024-10-07T22:43:39Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/1/7/9173d08f72c813358212a0364b6841a6cee0ca21.jpeg) Pic from Mable of a dented deviant+. Also i forgot i also had an outlier 3 get bent from maintenance in addition to my outlier mini and deviant+. Mable also knew somebody who had their deviant+ hub crack. It might be the same 6061 as everyone else but I feel like brandon is pushing the limits of the material too far and compromising durability based on these anecdotes (especially with the shared hub design). ---
**Author:** ![AtomicChessGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/atomicchessguy/32/606394_2.png) [@AtomicChessGuy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AtomicChessGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/11 "2024-10-07T23:02:04Z")
Perhaps he is pushing the material too far i do not know. Jeffrey Pang designed these so I would guess he knows what he is doing. I have an Outlier +, Deviant +, Outlier Mini and a Plastic Cheatcode and all are alive and well. I guess time will tell if I bend one of them but it has been pretty smooth sailing so far. What were you doing when the yo-yos got bent? ---
**Author:** ![zaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zaf/32/235871_2.png) [@zaf](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zaf)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/12 "2024-10-07T23:07:03Z")
1 bent in the mail and 2 bent from unscrewing and screwing to get at the bearing or for axle knots. And it was very infrequent to boot ---
**Author:** ![Scoogy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/scoogy/32/292166_2.png) [@Scoogy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Scoogy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/13 "2024-10-08T11:59:45Z")
That or either the spotlight ultra or the evolve would both great options for either a comp yoyo or just in general. U can only get the evolve on justins website tho ---
**Author:** ![Salablesix8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Salablesix8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Salablesix8)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/offset-deviant-or-other-options/411211/14 "2024-10-13T10:21:14Z")
Ended up getting a Colossus VI. The bearing on this is WAY quieter and the yoyo spins a lot longer, so assuming my issue is with the bearing probably more so than the yoyo. Might consider getting a replacement bearing at some point