# OD Side Effects Axle Size?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [November 20, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341 "2018-11-20T21:35:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@GizzmoTheGreat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GizzmoTheGreat)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/1 "2018-11-20T21:35:16Z")
What is the length of the stock One Drop Axle that’s used in the Side Effects equipped yoyos? And of the options for purchase on YYE what would be a viable replacement?
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/2 "2019-01-17T01:31:51Z")
Wait you want to replace _just the metal axle_ in a Side Effect? I am not sure the metal axle can be taken out independently of the rest of it?
I got the impression it was permanently attached on the other side… not like there’s a hex key side here!
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### Author:  [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/3 "2019-01-17T01:35:27Z")
You are correct, sir.
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/4 "2019-01-17T01:38:50Z")
It actually can be taken out, but requires either a lot of force or heat. The axles are glued in with red Loctite. And the axle size is M4x0.7 16mm.
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### Author:  [@GizzmoTheGreat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GizzmoTheGreat)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/5 "2019-01-17T01:56:49Z")
Confirmed, I was able to remove the axle, but it wasn’t easy to do without wrecking the side effects hub it was attached to (I didn’t wreck it, it just wasn’t easy). It involved a bit of heat and cold. Also as yoyospirit mentioned, they come with Loctite on one side. Originally I didn’t know if the side effects came WITH the axle, or if you had to purchase the axle separately. As I have discovered, when you buy a set of side effects they come with the axle…which seems obvious now that I know.
All of this was to get at a vibe tuning issue I was having with one of my One Drops. It’s all good now, I bought a new set of side effects and the yoyo is silky smooth…clearly an issue with the previous axle/hubs.
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/6 "2019-01-17T02:31:31Z")
If your side effect yoyo has any vibe, just put some thin lube on a q tip and lube up the side effect hole on the yoyo. Best way I’ve found to tune side effect yoyos, and it’s recommended too, keeps side effects from getting stuck.
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### Author:  [@GizzmoTheGreat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GizzmoTheGreat)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/7 "2019-01-17T03:13:50Z")
Interesting, I’ll give that a shot. I’ve got a slightly vibey Terrarian that I’d like to see if I can smooth out.
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### Author:  [@GizzmoTheGreat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GizzmoTheGreat)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/8 "2019-01-17T18:09:51Z")
Hmm, it didn’t seem to make a difference on the vibe. I took some thick lube to the inside of the seat where the side effects hub sits like you said, it did definitely make it not stick at all, which is good I suppose, but the vibe is still there.
When I say vibe I mean very little fingernail vibe…but all of my other One Drops are an 11 out of 10 smoothness, so the Terrarian is the ONE outlier because it has a slight bit of vibe.
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### Author:  [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/9 "2019-01-17T18:39:25Z")
Was it a new yo-yo or used? Any hit to the yo-yo, even if it hasn’t left a significant mark, can run the chance of causing a little vibe. Best just to ignore it and enjoy the yo-yo.
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### Author:  [@GizzmoTheGreat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GizzmoTheGreat)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/10 "2019-01-18T01:42:11Z")
Brand new. It’s minuscule really…not noticeable on the string, just with a touch of the fingernail. Like I said all of my one drops are dead smooth, the Terrarian is the one exception but totally not a factor.
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### Author:  [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/11 "2019-01-18T16:48:24Z")
I find that if you give OD side effect yo-yos an extra crank when tightening them it can smooth out whatever minimal vibe there is. You don’t need to worry about stripping them with the side effects, so put a little extra muscle into it and see if that helps.
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### Author:  [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)
#### Post date: [January 18, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-side-effects-axle-size/295341/12 "2019-01-18T17:43:36Z")
Also, you could try swapping out the SE for a different one, like you did with the other OD…