# OD RSM side effects **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 21, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618 "2014-04-21T17:07:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ForsakenPeanut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d2c977/32.png) [@ForsakenPeanut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ForsakenPeanut)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/1 "2014-04-21T17:07:34Z")
Does anyone know what happened to them? Were they discontinued because I cannot find them anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![paul\_dang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@paul\_dang](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/paul_dang)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/2 "2014-04-21T18:54:01Z")
Keep looking! They’re extremely difficult to come across. ---
**Author:** ![EvanW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/evanw/32/564_2.png) [@EvanW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanW)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/3 "2014-04-21T23:04:10Z")
Good luck finding them, and when you do be prepared to pay a hefty price. I sold mine a few months back for $95+shipping ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/4 "2014-04-22T01:06:46Z")
Yes, they are discontinued. I believe it’s because One Drop feared that YoYoFactory would sue them due to the similarity to their hubstacks. If you do manage to find a pair on the BST or somewhere, expect to pay over 5 times the price of regular side effects. The only two I’ve seen that have been sold on the BST were both sold for over $80 ---
**Author:** ![paul\_dang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/34f0e0/32.png) [@paul\_dang](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/paul_dang)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/5 "2014-04-22T02:32:42Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > Yes, they are discontinued. I believe it’s because One Drop feared that YoYoFactory would sue them due to the similarity to their hubstacks. > > If you do manage to find a pair on the BST or somewhere, expect to pay over 5 times the price of regular side effects. The only two I’ve seen that have been sold on the BST were both sold for over $80 Sue us? Nahh. They aren’t made anymore because they’re so tough to machine. ---
**Author:** ![jbritter3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jbritter3/32/1265_2.png) [@jbritter3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jbritter3)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/6 "2014-04-22T02:38:18Z")
> [@paul\_dang](#): > > Sue us? Nahh. > > They aren’t made anymore because they’re so tough to machine. I could imagine so! But I bet you would make a killer amount of money of you found ways to make it easier and produce them. ---
**Author:** ![isnortcomet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@isnortcomet](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/isnortcomet)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/7 "2014-04-22T20:00:02Z")
If people are paying $80+ to get them second (third, fourth) hand then it would probably be a good investment to make more and bump the MSRP! ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/8 "2014-04-22T21:32:50Z")
RSM’s are the CLYW Peak of SE’s. They are super-rare and way over-hyped because of the rarity. As I remember there were only 25 sets made (is my memory totally wrong?). I sold my SE collection, containing a set of RSM’s for big$. Unless you are a collector; the price of these are not justified by the play. Just like YYF hubstacks, the idea is much more interesting than the reality of playing them. How much do you play your hubstacks? That is about as much as I played with my RSM’s. I will say, however, that if you like hubstacks, the RSM’s - minus the Delrin discs - are the best hubstacks ever made. They are the Rolls-Royce of hubstacks. Maybe that is why YYF disliked them so much? ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/9 "2014-04-23T02:14:10Z")
Have you tried an epic? ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/10 "2014-04-23T13:54:54Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > Yes, they are discontinued. I believe it’s because One Drop feared that YoYoFactory would sue them due to the similarity to their hubstacks. Only thing YYF has a patent on is how the hubstacks are put on the throw. They were never put into production b/c they were very heavy and hard to machine. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-rsm-side-effects/65618/11 "2014-04-23T15:22:18Z")
I remember them saying that machining the RSM Delrin discs was very difficult.