# OD Deep State/Deeper State Maintenance
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [July 6, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921 "2025-07-06T23:12:34Z")
**Posts on this page:** 16
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### Author:  [@ayayron808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ayayron808)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/1 "2025-07-06T23:12:34Z")
What lube do y’all use for your guys deep/deeper states? Is it still v4m?
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### Author:  [@chosen\_1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chosen_1)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/2 "2025-07-07T01:44:01Z")
I’ve used traxxas silicon grease on all my modern respsonsives. Gives them a nice and snappy feel on the tug. I think it’s the stuff doc pop uses.
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### Author:  [@ayayron808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ayayron808)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/3 "2025-07-07T05:12:02Z")
Is there a specific one? There’s different types
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### Author:  [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/4 "2025-07-07T05:48:46Z")
I’ve always used TRA1657 when using traxxas grease however I’ve also used danco 88693 silicone grease and I’ve heard a few folks like super lube 92003
Also brain lube was just repackaged superlube 51010 which is often a default for folks that want a little more spin but still a good response.
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### Author:  [@zeteczx3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zeteczx3)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/5 "2025-07-07T11:45:24Z")
I’ve been using the grease that came in this Ozark Trail fishing reel maintenance kit from Walmart. Seems to work just fine!
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### Author:  [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/6 "2025-07-07T12:02:41Z")
Lots of stuff works fine. I have used vaseline and chapstick for responsive yoyos. Chapstick is cool bc it lasts a long time and responds nice.
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### Author:  [@chrisnotes86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrisnotes86)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/7 "2025-07-07T13:11:39Z")
So glad this topic was posted-
I just got a Deep State over the weekend and was curious what everybody was/is using to make it more responsive and snappy. I want to use for 0A/responsive play. Great thread @ayayron808 !
Awesome little yoyo BTW!
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@ayayron808](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ayayron808)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/8 "2025-07-07T13:13:54Z")
Last question, shields on or off? Or does it matter?
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### Author:  [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/9 "2025-07-07T13:36:29Z")
I hate dealing with Shields so they come off and stay off
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### Author:  [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/10 "2025-07-07T14:58:02Z")
Doesn’t matter
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### Author:  [@Splizacular](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Splizacular)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/11 "2025-07-07T15:19:00Z")
i get my a’s from fast eddy bearings. they come super snappy and stay that way for a long time. i haven’t gotten c’s specifically from them but they do carry them and if you want snappy response without having to reapply lube, I’d definitely give them a try
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### Author:  [@chrisnotes86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrisnotes86)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/12 "2025-07-07T15:52:09Z")
I just threw in some Chapstick on my 1/2 shielded bearing- it helped a lot but not QUITE snappy enough. I actually have some lube that came with my hair clippers at home now that I think about it- will try that later- thanks all!
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### Author:  [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/13 "2025-07-07T17:10:07Z")
Adding a touch of oil on top of the chapstick helps it soften and spread, or you could apply more chapstick.
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### Author:  [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/14 "2025-07-07T17:19:47Z")
Now that’s a pro-tip there, I’ve never thought of trying that!
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### Author:  [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/15 "2025-07-07T18:02:15Z")
Yeah I’ve added brain lube (oil) ontop of grease to help work it in and thin out the grease a tad cause danco grease especially is very very vicious
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### Author:  [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/od-deep-state-deeper-state-maintenance/428921/16 "2025-07-07T19:14:18Z")
Brain lube aka superlube