# Not quite a beginner, looking for a new throw...
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [February 14, 2014, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828 "2014-02-14T05:18:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@lausgoose](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lausgoose)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2014, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828/1 "2014-02-14T05:18:09Z")
Hey everyone,
So I’m not too much of a beginner. I know how to bind, and I can land a couple simple string tricks. I’m using a Velocity right now, but feel like a new and better throw will help me progress. Suggestions? My budget is around 60.
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@crococorey](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crococorey)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828/2 "2014-02-14T05:29:17Z")
YYF shutter will make it rally easy to learn tricks because of how stable and long spinning and forgiving it is. It will make it easier to learn grinds on too.
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### Author:  [@Noonar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Noonar)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2014, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828/3 "2014-02-14T05:53:20Z")
I highly recommend the Strix or Raptor. I figured I should recommend these before everyone comes here and starts recommending all these trendy yoyos that are over hyped.
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2014, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828/4 "2014-02-14T06:07:09Z")
I would go with a Yoyojam Surge first. It’ll take you through pretty much every trick there is. Save the rest of your money for something better in the future.
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828/5 "2014-02-14T16:21:54Z")
If you want metal take a look at:
One Drop Benchmark (I prefer the H)
Shutter
CZM8
Hatchet
Level 6
Minute (only get this if you like smaller throws)
Magicyoyo N12 (cheapest but not carried at YYE)
If you want plastic look at:
Addiction
Crazy D
Rally
Protostar
If you want something cheap unresponsive and awesome the $13 speedaholic is fun as well
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### Author:  [@hobbyman101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbyman101)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/not-quite-a-beginner-looking-for-a-new-throw/63828/6 "2014-02-14T16:36:18Z")
I agree, the Speedaholic, for a cheep yoyo is excellent and well worth spending the $13. However, for learning you can not beat the YYJ Dark Magic II.