# Non-responsive yoyos going responsive - PLEASE HELP!

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance
**Created:** [October 14, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029 "2012-10-14T05:01:53Z")
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### Author: ![GypsyKing9000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@GypsyKing9000](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GypsyKing9000)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/1 "2012-10-14T05:01:53Z")

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Hey guys, my unresponsive yoyos are responding and I have no idea why. I have a YYF One, a YYF Protostar, a CLYW Canvas, and a CLYW Gnarwhal, and they all respond for some reason. The only reason I can think of is string tension, because I’m a left-handed yoyo player. Someone please help!

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### Author: ![Oloap\_Ominoreg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/oloap_ominoreg/32/1117_2.png) [@Oloap\_Ominoreg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Oloap_Ominoreg)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/2 "2012-10-14T05:05:02Z")

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I would clean the bearings.

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Good luck! 🙂

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### Author: ![GypsyKing9000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@GypsyKing9000](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GypsyKing9000)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/3 "2012-10-15T05:45:32Z")

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:o I’ve been told to do that, but this happens on ALL my yo-yos and I just got new bearings.

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### Author: ![GypsyKing9000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@GypsyKing9000](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GypsyKing9000)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/4 "2012-10-15T05:47:24Z")

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AND it happened before I got new bearings too.

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### Author: ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/6 "2012-10-15T08:26:43Z")

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True. Make sure you are using a thin lube when lubbing them. Thick lube will actually slow them down

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### Author: ![uramis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ba9def/32.png) [@uramis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/uramis)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/7 "2012-10-15T13:48:43Z")

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well, you should try cleaning the bearings. you said you were ‘told’ to do so, so I’m thinking you haven’t done so. It might be because new bearings are not always dry, which would require either breaking in or cleaning to be unresponsive.

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### Author: ![GypsyKing9000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@GypsyKing9000](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GypsyKing9000)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/8 "2012-10-15T16:43:09Z")

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> [@anon67192410](#):
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> It could be that your yoyos are starting to become aware of your playing and thus becoming more responsive to what your doing to them and have decided to become human!
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> Either that, or the lube you are using is too thick… I would say it is the former 😛

Lol, thanks man, I’ll go out and get some thin lube and see if that works

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### Author: ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/9 "2012-10-15T21:47:52Z")

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> [@GypsyKing9000](#):
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> > [@anon67192410](#):
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> > It could be that your yoyos are starting to become aware of your playing and thus becoming more responsive to what your doing to them and have decided to become human!
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> > Either that, or the lube you are using is too thick… I would say it is the former 😛
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> Lol, thanks man, I’ll go out and get some thin lube and see if that works

Just clean your bearings out really good to start with. Then sparingly apply lube. Pin dipped in lube then touched to a ball or two.

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### Author: ![stookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/stookie/32/1071_2.png) [@stookie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stookie)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/10 "2012-10-15T22:03:35Z")

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> [@GypsyKing9000](#):
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> > [@anon67192410](#):
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> > It could be that your yoyos are starting to become aware of your playing and thus becoming more responsive to what your doing to them and have decided to become human!
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> > Either that, or the lube you are using is too thick… I would say it is the former 😛
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> Lol, thanks man, I’ll go out and get some thin lube and see if that works

Thin lube also slows bearings down. The fastest and least responsive bearings are bone dry.

At very least, there’s no reason to go buy thin lube to attempt to fix the problem. It won’t. Cleaning out the bearings is the best bet.

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### Author: ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/11 "2012-10-16T01:29:18Z")

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Running your bearing bone dry will destroy them unless they Re cermaic. Don’t run them bone dry

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### Author: ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/12 "2012-10-16T01:31:30Z")

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> [@Jagmcool](#):
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> Running your bearing bone dry will destroy them unless they Re cermaic. Don’t run them bone dry

that is not in the least bit true.

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### Author: ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/13 "2012-10-16T01:37:56Z")

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Over time the heat from the metal will eventually warp and remove the hardening put on the balls. It is every bit true.

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/14 "2012-10-16T02:12:46Z")

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> [@Jagmcool](#):
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> Over time the heat from the metal will eventually warp and remove the hardening put on the balls. It is every bit true.

Right, but the difference is barely a practical concern. A bearing could last years and they cost about $10 to replace. You would spend more on a bottle of lube than you would save by keeping the bearing twice as long.

I run all my bearings bone dry and I advise others to do the same if they want the fastest, least responsive bearing possible. Lube isn’t a must by any means. I actually think the main purpose for lube is just to keep a bearing quiet and feeling smooth, not for longevity.

The original point being that this guy is trying to make his yoyos less responsive. Lube isn’t going to help, it’ll just make it worse.

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### Author: ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/15 "2012-10-16T02:16:22Z")

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It will make it worse for a little while till he breaks it in. All of my bearing are $25+ because I buy ceramic so that I don’t have to lube them and they will last forever. Point being, lube your bearings unless your going to buy them on a regular basis.

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### Author: ![stookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/stookie/32/1071_2.png) [@stookie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stookie)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/16 "2012-10-16T02:19:01Z")

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> [@Jagmcool](#):
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> It will make it worse for a little while till he breaks it in.

But it will never fix the problem. It won’t ever make it less responsive.

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### Author: ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/17 "2012-10-16T02:24:41Z")

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No it won’t. But if he’s going to clean them it will break down all the factory lube and unless he applies more after it will just cause further problem. He might even have a fractured ball

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#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/18 "2012-10-16T02:45:17Z")

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Running the bearing dry won’t cause further problem if his problem is that his bearings are too responsive. It will only help.

I think you’re vastly overstating the need for lube in terms of bearing life, and just the fragility of bearings in general. I will grant that lube probably extends the life, but a dry bearing’s life is potentially quite long. Could be measured in years. I don’t think it’s the primary reason people use lube on their bearings.

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### Author: ![Jagmcool](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jagmcool/32/1203_2.png) [@Jagmcool](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jagmcool)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/19 "2012-10-16T02:46:14Z")

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Depending on the bearing.

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### Author: ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/20 "2012-10-16T15:52:02Z")

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> [@Jagmcool](#):
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> It will make it worse for a little while till he breaks it in. All of my bearing are $25+ because I buy ceramic so that I don’t have to lube them and they will last forever. Point being, lube your bearings unless your going to buy them on a regular basis.

I have been yoyoing for 10 months, and haven’t bought new bearings as a replacement. I run them bone dry.

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### Author: ![GypsyKing9000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@GypsyKing9000](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GypsyKing9000)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/non-responsive-yoyos-going-responsive-please-help/44029/21 "2012-10-16T22:53:58Z")

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> [@stookie](#):
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> > [@Jagmcool](#):
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> > Over time the heat from the metal will eventually warp and remove the hardening put on the balls. It is every bit true.
> 
> Right, but the difference is barely a practical concern. A bearing could last years and they cost about $10 to replace. You would spend more on a bottle of lube than you would save by keeping the bearing twice as long.
> 
> I run all my bearings bone dry and I advise others to do the same if they want the fastest, least responsive bearing possible. Lube isn’t a must by any means. I actually think the main purpose for lube is just to keep a bearing quiet and feeling smooth, not for longevity.
> 
> The original point being that this guy is trying to make his yoyos less responsive. Lube isn’t going to help, it’ll just make it worse.

Okay, so, how would you suggest I clean them? Also, one of my friends told me valve oil works, and since I play in the school band, that’s pretty convenient…

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