# Ninja Changing Manufacturing Country of Origin; Ethical? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [May 5, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975 "2019-05-05T02:54:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jedillama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jedillama/32/45547_2.png) [@Jedillama](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jedillama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/1 "2019-05-05T02:54:57Z")
Ehh. If thats whats keeping you from trying certain throws then you’re missing out on some good stuff. Im all for buying American when possible, but business owners need to widen their margains as much as they can. Look at it this way perhaps: These Chinese yoyos are putting food in the mouths of an American family. Jake seems like a good dude and i wont hold his manufacturing choices against him…especially considering the quality of the products he puts out. ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/2 "2019-05-05T03:08:08Z")
> [@The Giant Oversized Yo-Yo Fan Club](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-giant-oversized-yo-yo-fan-club/301946/13): > > especially considering the quality of the products he puts out. You mean other people put out for him. His QC is great though. ---
**Author:** ![Jedillama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jedillama/32/45547_2.png) [@Jedillama](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jedillama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/3 "2019-05-05T03:17:31Z")
Sure. He still had to put in the foot work to find a shop that makes products to his standards, though. He could have just went with the lowest bidder but that would just mean he would throw out way more throws than he already does. I respect your view, I do. I just would rather support Jake and what he does for the community regardless of where he sees fit to have his yoyos machined ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/4 "2019-05-05T03:20:49Z")
> [@The Giant Oversized Yo-Yo Fan Club](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-giant-oversized-yo-yo-fan-club/301946/16): > > I just would rather support Jake and what he does for the community Assuming I don’t eh? Patreon supporter here. Rather give him monies than buy Chinese stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Jedillama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jedillama/32/45547_2.png) [@Jedillama](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jedillama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/5 "2019-05-05T03:23:06Z")
I suppose it was unfaire of me to assume that. Based on your previous comment it seemed pretty obvious where you stood. ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/6 "2019-05-05T03:28:56Z")
If you don’t mind me asking, why do you refrain from buying Chinese manufactured yoyos? ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/7 "2019-05-05T03:35:29Z")
I don’t. I refrain from purchasing Chinese made yoyos when the company behind said yoyo got popular from priding themselves on American made. Then they quietly shifted production overseas once popular. Throw in reason x,y,z. But it comes down to business. Just makes sense to have things made overseas. Doesn’t mean I have to get on that train. No issues with Chinese made. More of an issue in ethics ‘n such. ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/8 "2019-05-05T03:39:15Z")
Second part to this. There are so many awesome yoyos out now days. Need to be picky or I’d be broke with far too many yoyos. But hey, I bought a Reaper. It’s awesome. Do I wish it was machined like old G2’s? Heck yes. But hey, I still get behind his stuff. Doesn’t mean I have to be happy about his choice though. ---
**Author:** ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/9 "2019-05-05T03:46:17Z")
Gotcha. I definitely understand from where you’re coming. ---
**Author:** ![Jedillama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jedillama/32/45547_2.png) [@Jedillama](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jedillama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/10 "2019-05-05T03:54:50Z")
Good points. We may not see eye to eye but I appreciate a clean discourse. Thats one of the reasons i like this forum. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/11 "2019-05-05T04:34:54Z")
> [@Applepooh](#): > > You mean other people put out for him. The only people who really put out their own yoyos are people like Onedrop who both design and produce them themselves. And there’s also people like me who both design and make every single cut on every yoyo I produce. You can’t get more direct than that. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/13 "2019-05-05T04:42:24Z")
> [@anon5341354](#): > > And there’s also people like me who both design and make every single cut on every yoyo I produce. You can’t get more direct than that. 😁 Need to pick up one of your unresponsives. Long time lurker of your work. Love it. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/14 "2019-05-05T04:47:12Z")
Did I miss something that happened recently? Edit: oh I see, this was split from another thread ---
**Author:** ![Applepooh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/applepooh/32/40751_2.png) [@Applepooh](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Applepooh)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/15 "2019-05-05T04:51:11Z")
Nothing new. I just fly off the handles now and again. Bear with me. ---
**Author:** ![ClaytonDM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@ClaytonDM](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ClaytonDM)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/16 "2019-05-05T05:49:19Z")
I missed the original thread, but IMO it’s fine. Especially in the case of American designers simply outsourcing the manufacturing. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/17 "2019-05-05T11:05:07Z")
I feel like long off-topic digressions should be moved to their own topic anyways in almost all cases… 1. Easier to follow a properly named topic rather than “kitchen sink this could be about anything and everything, who fricken knows what this is about, do words even mean things any more really” 2. Gives the digression breathing room to become its own discussion 3. Does not bogart the original topic and drive it in _unwanted_ directions ---
**Author:** ![RABid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rabid/32/71864_2.png) [@RABid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RABid)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/18 "2019-05-05T12:03:23Z")
I live in the USA so I will give preference to yoyos designed and made in the USA. I see no problem with someone from China having a preference for Chinese yoyos, or someone from Europe having a preference for their products. Do I ONLY buy USA yoyos? No. I give preference. And lets face it, as long as companies like One Drop are around, why not? But, I do like to collect, explore and experiment. I will be buying foreign products, but I do have a preference. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/19 "2019-05-05T12:09:42Z")
Well said! ☝ I too give preference to US made. I don’t try to kid myself that I’ll only buy US YoYos though, only @Grendel has this kind of will power! ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/20 "2019-05-05T12:23:04Z")
OK, then if you feel strongly about this, do you only buy cars made in America? That has a much larger impact. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975/21 "2019-05-05T12:58:33Z")
Prefer US vehicles too! I’ve owned 5 fords and 2 Chevys. Have 2 Ford trucks and an old tractor currently. Like YoYos this is just a preference though, not completely opposed to owning something foreign. Definitely not gonna buy a car made in China though!!! [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/ninja-changing-manufacturing-country-of-origin-ethical/301975.md?page=2)