# Next yoyo

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [February 3, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412 "2011-02-03T00:16:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![SKOHH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SKOHH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SKOHH)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412/1 "2011-02-03T00:16:26Z")

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I currently have a Duncan freehand zero and Dark Magic. I like both yoyo’s and if i could combine the two i think they would make a perfect yoyo! I love the smoothness of the metal zero, but hate friction stickers, i love the adjustable gap and hybrid response of the dark magic. What i want to know is if there is a yoyo that would have the best of both worlds? Im looking to spend less than $80, but if you know of one outside that price range, please let me know anyway! I would appreciate any help offered!

Thanks

SKOHH?!

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**Author:** ![d4rqk0n3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d4rqk0n3/32/411_2.png) [@d4rqk0n3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d4rqk0n3)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412/2 "2011-02-03T01:05:11Z")

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You could try an YYF Adjust-o-Matic or a YYF 401k with a Velocity v1 or v2 shuttle installed in one side. That would be a smooth metal with an adjustable hybrid response. Other than that man, I honestly don’t think I can help you. I really wracked my brain here. 😛 I hope you find something that will make you happy. All of that should be under $80 except perhaps the 401k. Also, I noticed you are new to the forums, in the future threads with this type of subject should go into the Looking for Help/Recommendations Forum. Welcome Aboard 😃

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**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412/3 "2011-02-03T01:56:07Z")

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> [@SKOHH](#):
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> I love the smoothness of the metal zero, but hate friction stickers!

Get some Duncan Sili stickers. They’re last much longer than the friction stickers.

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**Author:** ![SKOHH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SKOHH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SKOHH)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412/4 "2011-02-03T02:35:06Z")

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Thanks d4rqk0n3 for the input, that will surely point me in the direction of my next yoyo purchase.

jhb8426 I might look into the sili stickers, but i really just dont like the friction sticker responce, will using only one sili sticker leave the yoyo unresponcive enough to bind only when i want it to? thats why i love the adjustable gap and hybrid responce of the dark magic.

Thank you both for your help!

SKOHH?!

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**Author:** ![d4rqk0n3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d4rqk0n3/32/411_2.png) [@d4rqk0n3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d4rqk0n3)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412/5 "2011-02-04T01:02:37Z")

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No problem.

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**Author:** ![SKOHH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SKOHH](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SKOHH)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412/6 "2011-02-05T22:36:31Z")

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Hey d4rqk0n3, call me retarded but I cant see to find the YYF 401k…maybe they dont have it in the shop here. Could you perhaps point me in the direction of one? I am curious to compare before I decide which yoyo to purchase. I once again would appreciate the help!

Thanks!

SKOHH?!

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**Author:** ![d4rqk0n3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/d4rqk0n3/32/411_2.png) [@d4rqk0n3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/d4rqk0n3)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/next-yoyo/23412/7 "2011-02-06T00:34:12Z")

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As far as I know you will only be able to find one on a BST because I do not think they are still being produced. But, for sheer comparison of the specs:

SPEED DIAL  
Manufacturer YoYoFactory  
Shape Wing  
Weight (g) 58.10  
Width (mm) 37.28  
Diameter (mm) 55.50  
Gap Width (mm) 3.91  
Bearing Size (Inside x Outside x Width) 5x10x4 mm

401k  
Manufacturer YoYoFactory  
Shape Wing  
Weight (g) 70.10  
Width (mm) 41.80  
Diameter (mm) 56.43  
Gap Width (mm) 3.92  
Bearing Size (Inside x Outside x Width) 5x10x4 mm

These were copied and pasted from YYN. I hope you find what you are looking for. Also, 401k’s are expensive, almost if not double the retail price of the Speed Dial so keep that in mind. Good Luck 😃
