# Newb Here, would like a little help **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [August 18, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106 "2013-08-18T17:57:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/21 "2013-08-19T03:27:52Z")
> [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](#): > > The only thing you need a responsive for is learning to throw and looping. He knows how to throw, so now he should get a looping yoyo or unresponsive yoyo. So, Magic Yoyo. Not true. Responsive play (with a bearing even; not just the fixed axle renaissance we’re seeing) is fun and rewarding. I could do combos ending with flyaway trapeze returns (?) all day. ---
**Author:** ![RobK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RobK)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/22 "2013-08-19T22:01:07Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > Not true. Responsive play (with a bearing even; not just the fixed axle renaissance we’re seeing) is fun and rewarding. I could do combos ending with flyaway trapeze returns (?) all day. I love responsive play with a bearing. Not so much the fixed axle for me. But I do agree with the joy of the flyaway trapeze returns being a thing of joy. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e95f7d/32.png) [@Yoyo\_Kangaroo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Kangaroo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/23 "2013-08-19T22:27:09Z")
> [@GregP](#): > > Not true. Responsive play (with a bearing even; not just the fixed axle renaissance we’re seeing) is fun and rewarding. I could do combos ending with flyaway trapeze returns (?) all day. Oh. Right. I forgot that. My bad. Anyway, my main point was if he wanted to get into unresponsive play, he doesn’t need to worry about responsive yoyos. He can go straight into unresponsive. ---
**Author:** ![Heavenshaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Heavenshaker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Heavenshaker)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/24 "2013-08-19T22:34:13Z")
I think the DM2 is a great choice. I personally would go for a yoyojam classic and get a bearing that you are interested in from the appropriate section on the site. Also pick up some different kinds of string, I would suggest getting both yoyo string labs type x and ammo. You will also probably want to pick up some different silicone stickers to replace the o-rings at some point, I’d get the yoyojam kind that will fit and are made for it and another brand that you may be interested in (that will fit - you can look on the site for exact specifications) and see how all the different setups feel. I think you are still in DM2 money range and you get to experience a few different brands and ranges of products to help with future purchases. ---
**Author:** ![PAPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/papo/32/1415_2.png) [@PAPO](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PAPO)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/25 "2013-08-19T22:48:05Z")
> [@Heavenshaker](#): > > I think the DM2 is a great choice. I personally would go for a yoyojam classic and get a bearing that you are interested in from the appropriate section on the site. Also pick up some different kinds of string, I would suggest getting both yoyo string labs type x and ammo. You will also probably want to pick up some different silicone stickers to replace the o-rings at some point, I’d get the yoyojam kind that will fit and are made for it and another brand that you may be interested in (that will fit - you can look on the site for exact specifications) and see how all the different setups feel. I think you are still in DM2 money range and you get to experience a few different brands and ranges of products to help with future purchases. AMMO is a terrible idea for a DM2 the gap is waaaaay to narrow, even with the speed bearing, and Type X could be a problem with the responsive bearing. Also IR pads are a great replacement, responce that you can buy in bulk if you like and if like me you wear through your response unusually quickly. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/26 "2013-08-20T04:13:37Z")
> [@PAPO](#): > > AMMO is a terrible idea for a DM2 the gap is waaaaay to narrow, even with the speed bearing, and Type X could be a problem with the responsive bearing. The DM2 has one of the widest gaps on the market at nearly 5mm. It’s a very unresponsive yoyo. I’ve used Ammo in there and it works fine. I’m not preferring Ammo overall (nice string, but just not my favourite) but it’ll work in a DM2. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/27 "2013-08-20T04:23:15Z")
I’m using Type X in my DM2 and most everything else I have that is worth over $30(including some that are under $30) and I can’t say I’m having any issues with this string. Everything else is using YYE 100% poly, except my loopers which are using YYE Slick6. If the Ammo string is too thick, I’d say your technique needs some clean-up. What I find to be too thick is “Thick Metz” string. I simply don’t like that at all. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/28 "2013-08-20T06:43:14Z")
> [@84 GT 5.0](#): > > For looping I have a Yomega Raider and I’m very pleased with it. > > Like I said I will try the t5 and if I don’t like it i will get the dark magic 2 Make sure you know what binding is before you try to use it. > **[YoYoExpert.com - Intermediate - Bind Returns](https://yoyoexpert.com/learn/030-intermediate-bind-returns.php)** > > Learn how to return an unresponsive yo-yo using a bind return from the YoYoExpert. ---
**Author:** ![84\_GT\_5.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/3ab097/32.png) [@84\_GT\_5.0](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/84_GT_5.0)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/29 "2013-08-20T15:58:53Z")
eagerly waiting for my t5. I screwed up and got one from overseas so it won’t be here for 2 weeks ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/30 "2013-08-20T17:01:18Z")
> [@84\_GT\_5.0](#): > > eagerly waiting for my t5. I screwed up and got one from overseas so it won’t be here for 2 weeks Just so you know, this is an unresponsive yoyo. You’ll need to learn to bind to bring it back to your hand. Also, think closer to 3 weeks. Average time for me has been 17 days. ---
**Author:** ![Heavenshaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Heavenshaker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Heavenshaker)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/31 "2013-08-21T01:37:41Z")
> [@PAPO](#): > > AMMO is a terrible idea for a DM2 the gap is waaaaay to narrow, even with the speed bearing, and Type X could be a problem with the responsive bearing. Also IR pads are a great replacement, responce that you can buy in bulk if you like and if like me you wear through your response unusually quickly. I was talking all about the classic. I don’t know anything about the DM2. I am guessing my post didn’t make too much sense when you got to the part saying it would be in the DM2 price range… because DM2 plus anything is by some form of mathematical law no longer in the DM2 price range. ;D ;D ---
**Author:** ![PAPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/papo/32/1415_2.png) [@PAPO](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PAPO)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/newb-here-would-like-a-little-help/58106/32 "2013-08-21T01:51:32Z")
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