# New YoYoFactory Shutter Wide Angle w/ Mirror Polished Rims!
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-yoyofactory-shutter-wide-angle-w-mirror-polished-rims/299324
**Category:** YoYoExpert Releases and Restocks
**Created:** [February 25, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-yoyofactory-shutter-wide-angle-w-mirror-polished-rims/299324 "2019-02-25T21:25:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-yoyofactory-shutter-wide-angle-w-mirror-polished-rims/299324/63 "2019-03-12T12:22:52Z")
Do you like the ND ultra?
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### Author:  [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-yoyofactory-shutter-wide-angle-w-mirror-polished-rims/299324/64 "2019-03-12T12:26:49Z")
I did prefer the ND Ultra to the regular ND, but I haven’t thrown one in a while. I’d have to go try them back to back when I get a chance.
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### Author:  [@Yoyo\_Man](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo_Man)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-yoyofactory-shutter-wide-angle-w-mirror-polished-rims/299324/65 "2019-03-12T13:54:19Z")
And we all thought it was a bi metal Shutter…
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### Author:  [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-yoyofactory-shutter-wide-angle-w-mirror-polished-rims/299324/66 "2019-03-12T14:19:23Z")
> [@Clinton](#):
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> That’s hard to believe. Even if newbies are beginning to buy unresponsive bi metal won’t be their concern. They go for cheap or plastic. Anyone who starts buy 50$ + yoyos as a beginner does research on what they buy. Reviews, asking the community, reading every spec. Even if a noobie does buy it thinking it’s bi-metal they won’t even have The skill to tell The difference. Shame on them. The only thing yoyofactory could do to make it anymore clear is to call the thing the “Not Bi-Metal Shutter”. This assumes that yoyoers are so stupid they need their hands held for simple aesthetic choices. I don’t believe that.
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> Stop assuming people are stupid and need your help to stop all these evil bussness practices yoyofactory has conjured will the help of the devil him self to trick all us poor simple minded toy players.
I think that you underestimate the lack of knowledge of people not actively involved in the community. As per your “research” suggestion, that is also not exactly the case. I could very easily seeing a parent casually come across this yoyo when shopping for a nice birthday present, and think “oh, my kid mentioned bi-metals, and this one looks like one for a good price”, and affirm his suspicions when he sees “bi-metal styling” in the description. I don’t think confusion about the product will be widespread, but I am positive that it will happen. I also don’t believe that YYF ever intended to deceive people at any level with this, but unfortunately I think it will happen.
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### Author:  [@Clinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Clinton)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-yoyofactory-shutter-wide-angle-w-mirror-polished-rims/299324/68 "2019-03-14T05:50:54Z")
I deleted that last post because I was being a jerk. What I should have said was:
There are far more confusing yoyo details that would go over random gift shoppers heads. 2a, 4a, reasponsive, a size bearings, palm/ del/ injected plastics…ect. A few miss gifts should not be the reason we discourage a yoyo company for trying new ideas. But my true feeling is a lot of this is simply that it’s yoyo factory. If one drop or G squared had done this I feel it would have been welcomed with open arms. Things said like " they think outside the box". I find myself confused why this is even a problem when I find one of the most loved companies that has a couple of video game season pass level practices that go completely unchecked.
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