# New Superstar or New Supernova?

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [December 12, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067 "2013-12-12T21:22:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Eastfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eastfield/32/1158_2.png) [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/1 "2013-12-12T21:22:50Z")

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And why?

Thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/2 "2013-12-13T00:13:43Z")

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I personally prefer the new superstar. The H profile just fits me better and the extra width makes it really fun to mess around with.

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/3 "2013-12-13T06:43:56Z")

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I think the new SuperNova comes with a Severe right now, so that could sway your decision. However, in my preferences, I played both and neither really connected with me. However, if you like either, chances are you’ll like the other. It’s like a major 2 for 1 score. Or, you could BST one off and recover some of your spending.

I do greatly enjoy the 2013 SuperStar. The wider profile isn’t too much wider. The lower walls make it better for horizontal, which is also part of the purpose with the wider profile as well. Good weight balance. Now, wider profiles take a bit of adjustment. The 2013 SuperStar will have an extremely short adjustment period over something like the SuperWide. Regardless, this adjustment will only help you in the long run with any yoyo, so it’s all good.

None are good grinders. All are extremely reasonably priced.

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**Author:** ![nardcopter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nardcopter/32/1335_2.png) [@nardcopter](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nardcopter)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/4 "2013-12-13T14:45:35Z")

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Get the John Ando Superstar when it comes out if your into grinds. That’s what I’m doing.

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**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/5 "2013-12-13T15:08:50Z")

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> [@nardcopter](#):
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> Get the John Ando Superstar when it comes out if your into grinds. That’s what I’m doing.

It’s already out. [http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/1033/YYF-2013-Superstar](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/1033/YYF-2013-Superstar)

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/6 "2013-12-13T18:54:53Z")

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> [@NathanC](#):
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> It’s already out. [http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/1033/YYF-2013-Superstar](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/1033/YYF-2013-Superstar)

The John Ando SuperStar is one of the Champions Edition series:

Silver/clear regular SuperStar with posts, no stacks or stack bearings or rubber rings included.

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**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/7 "2013-12-13T19:01:59Z")

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> [@Studio42](#):
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> The John Ando SuperStar is one of the Champions Edition series:
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> Silver/clear regular SuperStar with posts, no stacks or stack bearings or rubber rings included.

Yes that’s the old one, which no one was talking about. Here’s what we were talking about:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/c/c/fccb8435e882c6020d0386c8499fecd3004ff5e0.png)

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**Author:** ![YOYOJAMizm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamizm/32/774_2.png) [@YOYOJAMizm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOYOJAMizm)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/8 "2013-12-13T19:14:14Z")

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They honestly play equally as good… Which ever shape you prefer.

I got to play my new supernova before having to give it back(Christmas present). Instantly fell in love with it, maybe since I’ve put so many hours on my delrin severe. The supernova was like the peak of performance compared to my severe .

Plus there’s the free severe deal going on

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**Author:** ![Eastfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eastfield/32/1158_2.png) [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/9 "2013-12-13T19:20:45Z")

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Thanks guys! The Severe-deal is a plus, though i have one already… So it’s nice, though i wont make that decide.  
On play, how are these? Who’s the most stable etc?

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/10 "2013-12-13T19:37:41Z")

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> [@NathanC](#):
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> Yes that’s the old one, which no one was talking about. Here’s what we were talking about:
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> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/mXmqzCC.png)

Ah, I didn’t realize YYF had released more variants.

Honestly, YYF needs to start blasting their yoyos. I got a 2013 SuperStar on day of drop and the smooth surface is the one thing that I don’t like about the one I have. I’m also normally not a big fan of YYF splashes, but these look pretty good. At $5 more for splash and blast, it’s still a deal.

Similarly, the Shutter, smooth on release, now blasted Champions Edition and now splash.

I prefer solids.

To the OP’s new questions:

> [@Eastfield](#):
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> Thanks guys! The Severe-deal is a plus, though i have one already… So it’s nice, though i wont make that decide.  
> On play, how are these? Who’s the most stable etc?

All of them meet your requirements for stability. For me, it was “which did I prefer”. All three are excellent. The fact that I did not like the SuperNova is only my preferences talking. I say pick the shape you like and go for it.

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**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/11 "2013-12-19T15:37:42Z")

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I would go with a blasted Superstar, I think it’s the best available YYF right now. I haven’t played a blasted one but I doubt there’s any difference in play.

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**Author:** ![Gambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gambit/32/1358_2.png) [@Gambit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gambit)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/12 "2013-12-19T15:48:22Z")

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> [@Studio42](#):
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> Honestly, YYF needs to start blasting their yoyos. I got a 2013 SuperStar on day of drop and the smooth surface is the one thing that I don’t like about the one I have. I’m also normally not a big fan of YYF splashes, but these look pretty good. At $5 more for splash and blast, it’s still a deal.
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> Similarly, the Shutter, smooth on release, now blasted Champions Edition and now splash.

It seems to be a marketing ploy to me. They release a bunch of throws un-blasted which people buy, then after a bit of time they release the blasted + splash editions in the hope that people who liked the original will then buy a blasted. Cheeky, but I guess it must be working.

I agree that blasting is a must. The new Superstar (unblasted) is great but it’s quite annoying when you accidentally bumb it with your hand or something because it knocks tonnes of spin off it. I definately wish I had waited for a blasted version.

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**Author:** ![JoeBadass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/joebadass/32/338_2.png) [@JoeBadass](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JoeBadass)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/13 "2013-12-19T18:12:40Z")

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I like the new supernova much more. It has a nice presence on the string. Also, it stays truer (imo) to the supernova line, and even the first severe.

Get it and a delrin severe for free!!

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**Author:** ![Nemyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nemyo/32/14407_2.png) [@Nemyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nemyo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/14 "2013-12-20T20:57:49Z")

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Personally I found the New Supernova _that much_ better than the New Superstar, and with the current deal going on with the Supernova here on YYE, you cant go wrong with your purchase of a New Supernova.

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**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/15 "2013-12-20T21:01:44Z")

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> [@Gambit](#):
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> It seems to be a marketing ploy to me. They release a bunch of throws un-blasted which people buy, then after a bit of time they release the blasted + splash editions in the hope that people who liked the original will then buy a blasted. Cheeky, but I guess it must be working.
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> I agree that blasting is a must. The new Superstar (unblasted) is great but it’s quite annoying when you accidentally bumb it with your hand or something because it knocks tonnes of spin off it. I definately wish I had waited for a blasted version.

I agree.

YYF has built a reputation on yoyos with relatively smooth finishes. Attractive? Yes. Great playing yoyos? Well, although a matter of preference and opinion, the answer is “yes” without hesitation. Good grinders? Nope, due to that finish.

If YYF can manage to find a way to blast without adding significantly to the price, they should just do that.

I got a second Shutter because the Champions Edition is blasted. I’m not sure if I want to get a second 2013 SuperStar though.

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**Author:** ![Eastfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eastfield/32/1158_2.png) [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/16 "2013-12-22T16:47:36Z")

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Thanks guys! I think i’m gonna go with the Supernova - really like that shape!

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**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/17 "2013-12-23T04:15:55Z")

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> [@Gambit](#):
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> It seems to be a marketing ploy to me. They release a bunch of throws un-blasted which people buy, then after a bit of time they release the blasted + splash editions in the hope that people who liked the original will then buy a blasted. Cheeky, but I guess it must be working.

Other companies seem to do this as well though, and it makes sense. One Drop especially releases big ol’ runs of solids and then drops splashes a month or so later. YYR has been doing raw releases and then ano a bit later. Werrd’s done it before with the Irony GBA, etc. No big deal. Just a matter of knowing what you want and waiting for it if ya have to.

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**Author:** ![Raptor\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raptor_t/32/111715_2.png) [@Raptor\_T](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raptor_T)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/18 "2013-12-26T04:20:22Z")

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> [@Eastfield](#):
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> Thanks guys! I think i’m gonna go with the Supernova - really like that shape!

You won’t be dissapointed. It grinds the best out of the yoyos I own, and is a blast to throw.

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**Author:** ![YOYOJAMizm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamizm/32/774_2.png) [@YOYOJAMizm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOYOJAMizm)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-superstar-or-new-supernova/62067/19 "2013-12-26T04:36:24Z")

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> [@Raptor\_T](#):
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> You won’t be dissapointed. It grinds the best out of the yoyos I own, and is a blast to throw.

Got one for Christmas … So good and has a nice blasted finish … Only gripe is the spec x - swapped in a broken in one drop ten ball
