# New player in need of a good starter yoyo!

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-player-in-need-of-a-good-starter-yoyo/25715>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [April 20, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-player-in-need-of-a-good-starter-yoyo/25715 "2011-04-20T00:35:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Griffsnog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@Griffsnog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Griffsnog)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-player-in-need-of-a-good-starter-yoyo/25715/21 "2011-04-22T00:24:12Z")

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> [@Swatnoodle](#):
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> Yeah i see the dark magic as the number one recommended but it was also designed by Andre Boulay and this is his site lol. Seemed kinda biased

It’s actually just a really good intermediate yoyo. It’s great to learn on before you get good enough to determine and decide what your preferances are.

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**Author:** ![DG1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dg1/32/606_2.png) [@DG1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DG1)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-player-in-need-of-a-good-starter-yoyo/25715/22 "2011-04-22T21:19:08Z")

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I didn’t use lube until recently, and I’ve been throwing for a year. That’s up to you, though.

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**Author:** ![DByoyoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dbyoyoer/32/852_2.png) [@DByoyoer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DByoyoer)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-player-in-need-of-a-good-starter-yoyo/25715/23 "2011-04-26T03:42:46Z")

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> [@Kristiawan](#):
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> yeah, dark magic 2 would be awesome, since it come with narrow bearing and can be responsive. velocity is a great yoyo for learning too.

yeah i learned all the way to advance and learned how to bind with a velocity but then i messed up the bearing ☹ but i have center trac in the mail

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