# New metal Duncan Butterfly! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [August 6, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424 "2019-08-06T17:01:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/21 "2019-08-06T22:41:37Z")
I like the idea of them having a ‘premium’ butterfly that’s geared more towards collectors and enthusiasts though. I don’t know why this should be aimed at beginners at all. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/22 "2019-08-06T22:43:00Z")
I don’t think people really get what I’m saying or what the Butterfly really should be. ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/23 "2019-08-06T22:48:22Z")
It seems Duncan wants to expand the notion of what a Butterfly _can be_, rather than simply adhering to what it has always been. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/24 "2019-08-06T22:51:44Z")
I agree being an A bearing believer and fan that this should be another A bearing release. However players are going to be shredding this new AL Butterfly just because it will be fun to do so. I’m looking forward to it. ---
**Author:** ![WretchedRapture](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wretchedrapture/32/1124_2.png) [@WretchedRapture](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WretchedRapture)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/25 "2019-08-06T23:03:12Z")
I’m pretty sure Duncan confirmed that this will be compatible with a slim bearing… if that’s the case, I hope it’s included! I would love to play this as a modern responsive. ---
**Author:** ![kretzschmar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kretzschmar/32/668707_2.png) [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/26 "2019-08-06T23:14:04Z")
I love it. Maybe for 100 year anniversary they can do a Duncan Wheel with an A bearing and friction stickers ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/27 "2019-08-07T01:42:05Z")
Coming from someone who truly believes Duncan = :heart: For every 1 thing they get right they get 5 other things wrong. @AaronW & @anon5341354 are right, what were they going for? I’m gonna buy it in every color, but still I’m scratching my head over this confused design. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/28 "2019-08-07T03:12:17Z")
Yeah this looks weird, also I don’t like the $50 price point. I appreciate the metal remake sentiment, but I think the Tourney looked _way_ better. ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/29 "2019-08-07T03:22:34Z")
> [@Egon](#): > > For every 1 thing they get right they get 5 other things wrong. Duncan has been this way for quite a while, why they’ve been such a frustration to so many. There is so much potential, but the execution has been spotty far too often. ---
**Author:** ![Yertle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yertle/32/126385_2.png) [@Yertle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yertle)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/30 "2019-08-07T03:35:48Z")
I dunno - looks pretty cool to me. As to the price point, I’d like to see how it plays before I made a judgement. I also don’t see why it needs to be priced and geared toward beginners. The plastic butterfly and xt still exist, right? Looks fun. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/31 "2019-08-07T03:36:25Z")
At $25-$30 I would totally be for this. $50 seems _really_ high for what this is, especially given the low-cost Butterfly lineage. ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/32 "2019-08-07T03:46:56Z")
It’s obviously difficult to really tell from a pic but this yoyo _looks_ like it’ll play really play well with a slim bearing. If that’s the case I don’t mind the price tag. ---
**Author:** ![WretchedRapture](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wretchedrapture/32/1124_2.png) [@WretchedRapture](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WretchedRapture)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/33 "2019-08-07T04:00:54Z")
$50 struck me as a bit high, but I think that’s only because it has the name Butterfly on it. If it was called anything else, I don’t think I would’ve given it any more thought. I assume this thing is hollow. In that case, it seems reasonably priced alongside the likes of the Sherpa. I imagine a design like this isn’t the cheapest thing to make. ---
**Author:** ![AaronW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aaronw/32/49251_2.png) [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/34 "2019-08-07T04:04:12Z")
For the most part, the whole responsive yo-yo with a C bearing should stop :joy: it doesn’t work that great. Yes there are a number of good, and even great examples, but the A bearing is king for responsive. The cost is coming from its design, I’m sure it’s a hollow body capped yo-yo, like a Pure, Diesis and Sherpa. Those aren’t cheap. I’ll still get one, but will wait for a used one, can’t justify $50 on something I don’t feel I’m going to love. ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/35 "2019-08-07T04:09:08Z")
The box that appears to come with the one at Worlds is worth $25 to me. That said _50 wing wangs_ ain’t so bad considering. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/1/2/912a7d4498e710bcdf3f89fac09a3005a13f6289.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/36 "2019-08-07T04:15:46Z")
All I see is more packaging that’s going into the recycling ♻ ---
**Author:** ![Egon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/egon/32/53004_2.png) [@Egon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Egon)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/37 "2019-08-07T04:18:17Z")
Oh hell no. Look at the laser engraved artwork. That’s heirloom quality right there. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/38 "2019-08-07T04:18:58Z")
Eh, I’m just not a “keep all the packaging” kinda guy I guess. ---
**Author:** ![ClaytonDM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@ClaytonDM](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ClaytonDM)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/39 "2019-08-07T04:31:05Z")
If I played responsive I would be interested in this. Wouldn’t pay 50 bucks for it though. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424/40 "2019-08-07T05:36:45Z")
China made heirloom quality? Nah. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-metal-duncan-butterfly/306424.md?page=3)