# New from YYF: The Gentry Stein Shutter - OG Specs - Special edition! **URL:** \ **Category:** YoYoExpert Releases and Restocks\ **Created:** [May 19, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936 "2021-05-19T19:53:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/1 "2021-05-19T19:53:08Z")
![Shutter-Promo-Extra](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/7/c/97c3c8ebb0a65b0070904a88d74f014d423aef98.jpeg) @Gentry_Stein has now sold over 100,000 signature yo-yos making him the most successful professional player to endorse a yoyo in the modern age! To celebrate, YoYoFactory has produced a run of his signature shutter in the original specifications with a killer deal! You can snag a classic Shutter in these four colors for $34.99. Deal ends June 14th! > **[Shutter](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/shutter-yoyo-by-yoyofactory)** > > Built from the ground up, Shutter features an inner foil design to achieve a weight distribution that offers power, speed, and control! Gentry Stein Signature ---
**Author:** ![Biased\_Opinion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Biased\_Opinion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Biased_Opinion)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/2 "2021-05-19T20:02:32Z")
Glad to see yoyoexpert now has these. Cause I know they’ve been out for a week or 2 now. ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/3 "2021-05-19T21:09:54Z")
I built these! ---
**Author:** ![Koblue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/koblue/32/119715_2.png) [@Koblue](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Koblue)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/4 "2021-05-19T23:33:28Z")
Does this mean that all these years YYF has been selling us a worse version of the shutter? ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/5 "2021-05-19T23:52:29Z")
worse for who? It’s all preferences. The original Shutter is heavier, in a recent thread on this forum, being heavy was portrayed as bad, but to some, it is desirable. In terms of precision, finish and overall performance, I would rate these as some of my favorite Shutters we have ever produced, and at that price, Also the best value. ---
**Author:** ![Grunt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grunt/32/679117_2.png) [@Grunt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grunt)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/6 "2021-05-19T23:59:23Z")
> [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > sold over 100,000 signature yo-yos This number is staggering to me. @yyfben2.deactivated do you have a specification comparison for the different Shutters? YYE has the same specs listed for all of them it seems. ---
**Author:** ![Rosenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rosenberg/32/20465_2.png) [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/7 "2021-05-20T00:22:45Z")
Yeah I didn’t realize there was a change in weight ---
**Author:** ![Koblue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/koblue/32/119715_2.png) [@Koblue](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Koblue)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/8 "2021-05-20T00:34:22Z")
In Gentry’s words, this spec, which was used to win worlds, has more stability and spin time, to me that sounds better, at least for competing. Maybe I’m confused and it’s always been the same shutter. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/9 "2021-05-20T01:03:45Z")
These are the ones listed as “Classic Shutter Promo Edition”? ---
**Author:** ![ANGVS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angvs/32/77646_2.png) [@ANGVS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ANGVS)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/10 "2021-05-20T01:04:27Z")
> [@Grunt](#): > > This number is staggering to me. A huge number and quite the accomplishment…but I can’t think of any clip I’ve seen from Gentry that doesnt include “BUY A SHUTTER” lol I also just realized I typed this with a shutter in hand 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/11 "2021-05-20T03:15:46Z")
The weight of the shutter on the spec sheet on yoyoexpert right now is the original shutter’s weight. Yoyoexpert never updated the weight of the shutter across the runs and they also usually don’t do so: > [@What did you get in the mail for 2020/2021?](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/what-did-you-get-in-the-mail-for-2020-2021/302416/8074): > > Apparently the second run of the Almighty has a wider width 45mm vs 44mm (?) when compared from the first run. Also probably 1mm smaller in diameter. @YoYoExpertGarrett perhaps we should update the product specs in the site. The new one (on the left) also has slightly bigger metal rims than the first run. It is absolutely smooth, and is practically all catch zone. Easily the most stable and longest spinning throw I have. [20201113\_093507] Later runs of the shutter reduced the weight by a bit to 66 grams and then to 64.4 grams, which is the current shutter’s weight. ---
**Author:** ![Grunt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/grunt/32/679117_2.png) [@Grunt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grunt)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/12 "2021-05-20T03:48:31Z")
I guess I have the middleweight version. Showing 66.5g. Kinda curious about the heavier one though. ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/13 "2021-05-20T03:54:09Z")
You can get the heavier one right now! The OG Specs they are talking about and discounting is the heavier one (67.8g). ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/14 "2021-05-20T13:30:48Z")
> [@Myk\_Myk](#): > > These are the ones listed as “Classic Shutter Promo Edition”? correct. > [@Hanker](#): > > Yoyoexpert never updated the weight of the shutter across the runs and they also usually don’t do so: Manufacturers dont typically inform us of any design tweaks, so if a yoyo has the same name it gets put it on the page without rechecking specs. I missed that post about the Almighty specs though, I’ll make a note to change those. :+1: ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/15 "2021-05-21T15:56:17Z")
Ah I see. Manufacturers should inform though, it’s quite important to consumers. Well if I find anymore specs that have changed I’ll be sure to bring it up to you! ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/16 "2021-05-21T15:58:42Z")
Definitely, feel free to send me a PM if you notice anything that needs to be changed/edited on pages. :+1: ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/17 "2021-05-21T16:53:24Z")
Are you as good as Gentry? Maybe its not better for you. ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/18 "2021-05-21T17:02:23Z")
How important actually is it? as no brand has ever done it and right now you are learning this for the first time… should every yoyo be spec’ed in case there is variance between one yoyo in a run and another? what if you buy a yoyo and the specs are different from that advertised? 1gm? .5 gm? .1gm? .01gm? what variance is acceptable? If you buy 5 examples of any brand and weigh them you will probably find some variance, so the specs are almost always ‘bad’. In theory, every yoyo is identical, but they art and anyone who tells you otherwise is um… ---
**Author:** ![Koblue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/koblue/32/119715_2.png) [@Koblue](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Koblue)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/19 "2021-05-21T17:18:02Z")
Does it really matter how good I am? I’m nowhere near Gentry’s level and I don’t see the point in you asking me. Instead you have ignored my question and questioned my ability with a yoyo, which has nothing to do with what we were talking about. To ask you again, this spec has more stability and spin time, does that sound like a better yoyo to you? ---
**Author:** ![yyfben2.deactivated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ccd318/32.png) [@yyfben2.deactivated](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yyfben2.deactivated)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936/20 "2021-05-21T17:55:01Z")
Im not questioning your ability, just your determination that one set of specs is BETTER than another, which you actually questioned in the first place. Its preference… based on SKILL and TRICK COMPOSITION. Gentry started doing more change of direction and regain tricks. At the time, stability was a negative and spin time was irrelevant as he generated enough spin out of the lighter weight. If a certain set of specs were absolutely better we would just make 1 yoyo at the better specs and everyone would play with it… but people are different. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-from-yyf-the-gentry-stein-shutter-og-specs-special-edition/338936.md?page=2)