# New c3 Capless seems defective? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 29, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276 "2012-12-29T01:31:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![chriscollins14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chriscollins14/32/1026_2.png) [@chriscollins14](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chriscollins14)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/21 "2012-12-29T16:40:50Z")
> [@Jcpdx503](#): > > No but really I also ordered a capless and had bought a trifecta bearing and the capless is a great throw but I think it might be that maybe yoyos with a groove cause that loud because I hated that sound jt made the Yoyo so responsive but only flat bearing were working for me. I ended up getting rid of the capless because of that reason Ive used a Trifecta in my Capless for the last month and a half. Its quiet and smooth ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/22 "2012-12-29T16:49:05Z")
Trifecta is a very quiet bearing. I have 3. I had a minor issue with one, which Twisted Stringz helped me to resolve. I would confidently buy more if and when I needed them. I don’t know about specialty bearings in a Capless, though. I threw a General-Yo AIGR into the Capless and the entire setup is smooth and quiet and I have felt no need to muss about any further. I can’t see why a specialty bearing would cause issues, and I suppose I could just test it (have everything required!) but I don’t think the OP should have been jumped on… they stated that a known perfectly good bearing exhibited the same problems in the Capless… that’s a reasonable testing method. Swap Trifecta out for known good bearing, still having issues. Sounds like the yoyo not the bearing to me, too. Mind you, I’ve got crud-buckets full of bearings around here (OK, so only 8 or so extras…) and I would have tried a few of them just to confirm, as well as ALSO trying the Trifecta post-cleaning in another yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![walterC3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/walterc3/32/741_2.png) [@walterC3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/walterC3)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/23 "2012-12-29T19:25:46Z")
Hi All, The problem is not from yoyo. The reason of the noise come from bearing shield scratching the bearing seat. Different bearing factory have various bearing setting , so there is no only one standard of bearing shield in the market. We suggest you to remove bearing shield if you have this problem. The yoyo will back to good performance once you remove the bearing shield. Here is show the different bearing shield between stock bearing vs other bearing. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/8/4/2847139704d6e85632dae4289ba4721036b64111.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xore237](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xore237](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xore237)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/24 "2012-12-29T20:20:30Z")
I own the same colored capless and it plays fine with any bearing I put in it. ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/25 "2012-12-29T21:54:49Z")
> [@Proboscis](#): > > > [@chriscollins14](#): > > > > > [@NathanC](#): > > > > > > So you bought a Capless, it played great, then you put some other bearings in it, and the bearings made noise and played terribly and you decided it was the yoyo that was faulty and not the bearings…? OK… Trifectas are known to be loud, finicky, and turn responsive quite quickly judging by comments in this forum, and plenty of CTs can develop issues. This is why it’s good to have a larger amount of bearings. Every time a bearing of mine stops spinning well or gets loud, i throw it in a bag to be cleaned, currently the bag of dirty, poor playing bearings is around 18, and my OD Novus container full of extra good bearings has 2 in it. Bearings go bad quickly and often, that’s just life, don’t blame the yoyo, clean them more, add a microscopic amount of lube, and try again. > > > > the Trifecta is known to be one of the quietest bearings you can get… > > True Story. Give it time… Just like OD 10-balls it’ll get loud soon. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/26 "2012-12-29T22:18:11Z")
> [@NathanC](#): > > Give it time… Just like OD 10-balls it’ll get loud soon. I haven’t been running either OD or Trifecta for a large number of months yet, but it seems to me that over time the lube will break in/wear through… and then you’ll have to lightly lube again. Lightly lubed bearings tend to be quieter overall. So yes, I do believe that it’ll get loud soon. If you don’t lube it. And then it’ll get quieter again, after you lube it. Or are you saying that over time, regardless of lube, it’ll get loud? That’s a theory I can neither prove nor disprove at this point, but I’m up for the challenge. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/27 "2012-12-29T22:29:06Z")
I hate posts like these 😛 The op having no background knowledge of bearings or the yoyo, and they make a post saying the yoyo is messed up. We’ve all been there, but these posts just give the yoyo a bad name because the player doesn’t know how to maintain the yoyo. This has been said before, if the yoyo worked with the stock bearing, then it’s not the yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/28 "2012-12-29T22:48:40Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#): > > I hate posts like these 😛 The op having no background knowledge of bearings or the yoyo, and they make a post saying the yoyo is messed up. We’ve all been there, but these posts just give the yoyo a bad name because the player doesn’t know how to maintain the yoyo. This has been said before, if the yoyo worked with the stock bearing, then it’s not the yoyo. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoavenger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoavenger/32/884_2.png) [@yoyoavenger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoavenger)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/29 "2012-12-29T22:49:56Z")
> [@Vogen](#): > > > [@chriscollins14](#): > > > > > [@jhb8426](#): > > > > > > If it was all fine and great until you changed the bearing, why do you think it’s the yoyo that has a problem??? > > > > Exactly what i was wondering > > I was saying that the yoyo is supposed to be standard c-sized, and and thus should support other c-sized bearings, yet the other two bearings I try in it fail to make the yoyo function at all. I know it is the yoyo because one of the bearings I know for a fact is fine because it functions perfectly fine in my protostar but not in the cap less. > > So if two bearings work in one yoyo but not the other yoyo then a valid deductive reasoning is that the first yoyo must have been the problem. Not all bearings work well for all yoyos. Each yoyo works best with a certain yoyo usually. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/30 "2012-12-29T23:58:21Z")
> [@walterC3](#): > > Hi All, > > The problem is not from yoyo. > > The reason of the noise come from bearing shield scratching the bearing seat. Different bearing factory have various bearing setting , so there is no only one standard of bearing shield in the market. > > We suggest you to remove bearing shield if you have this problem. > The yoyo will back to good performance once you remove the bearing shield. > > Here is show the different bearing shield between stock bearing vs other bearing. > [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320\_9bc97e0f32.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320_9bc97e0f32.jpg) Did anyone read this? :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Yonut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/31 "2012-12-30T02:28:45Z")
> [@Shadowz143](#): > > > [@walterC3](#): > > > > Hi All, > > > > The problem is not from yoyo. > > > > The reason of the noise come from bearing shield scratching the bearing seat. Different bearing factory have various bearing setting , so there is no only one standard of bearing shield in the market. > > > > We suggest you to remove bearing shield if you have this problem. > > The yoyo will back to good performance once you remove the bearing shield. > > > > Here is show the different bearing shield between stock bearing vs other bearing. > > [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320\_9bc97e0f32.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320_9bc97e0f32.jpg) > > Did anyone read this? :wink: I thought I was hallucinating when noone mentioned it… ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/32 "2012-12-30T02:40:56Z")
Settle down. A few of us are on a derailed separate conversation. Only one post so far that seemed to disregard the manufacturer’s reply. ---
**Author:** ![Vogen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@Vogen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Vogen)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/33 "2012-12-30T05:36:47Z")
I had a problem and needed help, but for those of you that we’re rude to me… I apologize for coming to a yoyo forum where the motto is “make the simple amazing” to get help. I apologize if people hate posts like these, but I asked specifically how to fix the issue and if it was normal. I only wanted help. I have posted multiple times looking for help from people on this forum and this is the first time I have ran into such rude people who are interested in only putting others down. I may not be educated, but that is why I came asking these questions. Forums are a mode of communication, not a cesspool of sanctimonious self righteous idolization and ad hominem attacks. I thank those of you that helped, and hope the best for those who ridiculed. ---
**Author:** ![Vogen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@Vogen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Vogen)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/34 "2012-12-30T05:44:47Z")
> [@walterC3](#): > > Hi All, > > The problem is not from yoyo. > > The reason of the noise come from bearing shield scratching the bearing seat. Different bearing factory have various bearing setting , so there is no only one standard of bearing shield in the market. > > We suggest you to remove bearing shield if you have this problem. > The yoyo will back to good performance once you remove the bearing shield. > > Here is show the different bearing shield between stock bearing vs other bearing. > [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320\_9bc97e0f32.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320_9bc97e0f32.jpg) upon removing the bearing shield, it appears that the problem remains… The yoyo is still responsive, and makes the creeching noise. This post was extremely helpful, and I appreciate the help and is very good advice that I will keep in mind for future yo-yos! Thank you so much. ---
**Author:** ![YoyoGeezer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyogeezer/32/755_2.png) [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/35 "2012-12-30T05:55:02Z")
I also appreciate the response about the shields. One question that I have had is why this is not taken into account when machining? Why does any part of the yoyo need to come anywhere NEAR the bearing shield? ---
**Author:** ![walterC3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/walterc3/32/741_2.png) [@walterC3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/walterC3)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/36 "2012-12-30T10:44:15Z")
> [@Vogen](#): > > > [@walterC3](#): > > > > Hi All, > > > > The problem is not from yoyo. > > > > The reason of the noise come from bearing shield scratching the bearing seat. Different bearing factory have various bearing setting , so there is no only one standard of bearing shield in the market. > > > > We suggest you to remove bearing shield if you have this problem. > > The yoyo will back to good performance once you remove the bearing shield. > > > > Here is show the different bearing shield between stock bearing vs other bearing. > > [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320\_9bc97e0f32.jpg](http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8495/8322971320_9bc97e0f32.jpg) > > upon removing the bearing shield, it appears that the problem remains… The yoyo is still responsive, and makes the creeching noise. This post was extremely helpful, and I appreciate the help and is very good advice that I will keep in mind for future yo-yos! > > Thank you so much. Try to clean the bearing and bearing seat Welcome to contact me if need further help or replacement : [walter@c3yoyodesign.com](mailto:walter@c3yoyodesign.com) ---
**Author:** ![Jcpdx503](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@Jcpdx503](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jcpdx503)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/37 "2012-12-30T13:36:59Z")
> [@Vogen](#): > > I had a problem and needed help, but for those of you that we’re rude to me… I apologize for coming to a yoyo forum where the motto is “make the simple amazing” to get help. I apologize if people hate posts like these, but I asked specifically how to fix the issue and if it was normal. I only wanted help. I have posted multiple times looking for help from people on this forum and this is the first time I have ran into such rude people who are interested in only putting others down. I may not be educated, but that is why I came asking these questions. Forums are a mode of communication, not a cesspool of sanctimonious self righteous idolization and ad hominem attacks. > > I thank those of you that helped, and hope the best for those who ridiculed. Lol you’re so right. Some people on this forum will bash you for using wrong grammar, will rudely correct you for spelling incorrectly. Nowhere besides school have I ever been so quick to edit a mistake I’ve made in spelling or grammar besides here on this forum. It’s okay tho there’s more nice people the. Rude ones, but it’s not right that you came looking for help an just get told that they hate post like this, I actually had the same problem, the funny part is the people that were being rude offered no help at all really. They just told you it wasn’t the Yoyo. We all have to start somewhere ! ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/38 "2012-12-30T17:04:04Z")
I’ve been a frequenter of many many forums. This one is no worse than any other for grammar police and “another one of these threads?” complaints, etc. All forums are the same. However, this forum is also a little bit more rich with people who are helpful and generous. And that’s pretty cool. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Yonut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yonut](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yonut)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/39 "2012-12-30T17:20:36Z")
Derailed? Nonesense. Noone on YYE has EVER derailed a thread. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowz143](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shadowz143/32/952_2.png) [@Shadowz143](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shadowz143)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276/40 "2012-12-30T23:27:57Z")
I’m not sure if I ridiculed. If I did I’m sorry… I should stop worrying about things like that… I’m already worried enough. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-c3-capless-seems-defective/47276.md?page=3)