# New breed help!
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [March 15, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412 "2010-03-15T22:24:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@yellowbird404](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yellowbird404)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/1 "2010-03-15T22:24:40Z")
I bought my new breed about, six months ago. it played like a dream, untill the silicone fell out. i went to OSH and bought silicone, but it fell out again, so i bought flowable silicone and put it in, let it dry for 24 hours and in a couple of days, it fell out again. i got mad and went online and bought silicone pads, in a week or two they fell out also, i couldnt put them back in so i gave up, i have about two months without playing it because it had no response system and today i read you can use hot glue as a response system. Is this true? If it is, how long does it take to cure and is it responsive?
Thanks
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### Author:  [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/2 "2010-03-16T00:33:02Z")
You could try RTV silicone. It needs to be manipulated into the recess more, beucase it is less flowable. It provides tighter binds, most of the time, and is know to last longer. It is also called gasket maker (Spelling?). Can be found at Wal-mart I think.
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### Author:  [@belnumcree](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/belnumcree)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/3 "2010-03-16T15:08:50Z")
I had pretty decent luck with Silicone in my NB, lasted a couple of weeks, but I’m lazy so when I bought my Lunatic, I purchased a few extra K-pads. They’ve done great in my New Breed so far seeming to bond fairly tightly to it.
As to the hot glue, I don’t think the cure time is that long, but you may want to give it at least 12hrs to be sure. There was, a few months ago, someone who reported to have used Hot Glue on this site.
EDIT
Aha, found a couple of instances.
> **[hot glue rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,6039.0.html)**
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> hot glue rocks i put it on my pgm and it was more un-response then the k pads i recomend this to a lot of people how like a un responsive yoyo
> **[Hot glue. please read and help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,10349.0.html)**
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> my uncle wants me to mod his lyn. all of my silicone is gone and i was wandering if hot glue works as responce
> **[hot glue response on a mosquito](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,8103.0.html)**
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> ok, u take off the cruddy stickers, put some hot glue on, then shave it flush with an exacto, makes it semi responsive soo awsome sleep times, but still u can pul it back up 🙂 warning:dont do this to any semi expensive yoyo, u can mess it up also...
> **[My first custom string!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,13319.0.html)**
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> I made my first homemade string today. After many fails, i finally got it. Its 100%poly yellow and kiwi green. Its long and heavy. Just how i like them.The problems with my other strings was when i would string my yoyo the threads would spread...
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### Author:  [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/4 "2010-03-16T18:32:52Z")
Hot glue is ready in a few seconds.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/5 "2010-03-16T18:52:58Z")
Just remember that hot glue is near impossible to get out unless you have some modding skills. If you don’t like it then you aren’t going to have any fun with it.
Question. did you clean the recess before siliconing it?
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### Author:  [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/6 "2010-03-17T00:47:44Z")
NO HOT GLUE!!! The glue gun tip would melt your yoyo. Try permatex gasket maker.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/7 "2010-03-17T01:09:31Z")
> [@yoyospirit](#):
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> NO HOT GLUE!!! The glue gun tip would melt your yoyo. Try permatex gasket maker.
Only state things you know for sure. I’ve hot glued a few yo’s and nothing bad happened.
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### Author:  [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/8 "2010-03-17T01:29:42Z")
Or you can do the wipe with alcohol, scratch the bottom if neccesary, and then put it in… I think mrcnja said that… here…nvm… can’t find it. But basically, make sure it’s clean.
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### Author:  [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/9 "2010-03-17T02:24:51Z")
I know for a fact that both Icthus and I have said that before. The blue half of my Lyn ejected silicone twice in a week or two. After cleaning the recess out really well with rubbing alcohol it played fine and hasn’t ejected silicone yet. That was over a year ago.
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### Author:  [@FlyingPotato](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FlyingPotato)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/10 "2010-03-21T23:02:06Z")
This happened to me with my new breed too… at about six months as well…
I ordered the yyj silicon…
When i got the package i surprised to see that i didnt get silicon… i got a k-pad like response even though it said silicon on my receipt. So without contacting yoyoexpert, i pop the k-pads in and it was amazing… took about a week to break in but other than that it was better than the silicon. So get k-pads instead 🙂
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### Author:  [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/11 "2010-03-22T02:34:25Z")
(K-pads are silicone)
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### Author:  [@FlyingPotato](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FlyingPotato)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/12 "2010-03-25T03:47:19Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#):
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> (K-pads are silicone)
But isn’t it different from silicon from the original new breed to the k pad? Maybe im mistaken but, i had the clear silicon and i put in the “k-pads” but the were white… so confused.
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### Author:  [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/13 "2010-03-25T03:52:34Z")
Ha yeah. I’m not sure what the exact differences are, but they are indeed slightly different silicone.
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### Author:  [@belnumcree](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/belnumcree)
#### Post date: [March 25, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-breed-help/12412/14 "2010-03-25T11:59:05Z")
I’m not sure of the exact differences either, but seems to me that the K-pads are a good bit firmer than the silicone that came in the New Breed originally. Perhaps it’s Silicone rubber as opposed to standard silicone?