# Never ending pain **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 31, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656 "2022-07-31T20:29:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Spiked\_Elixer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spiked_elixer/32/173888_2.png) [@Spiked\_Elixer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spiked_Elixer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/1 "2022-07-31T20:29:51Z")
this is anoyingly painful. half of the time I bind my yoyo, is SOMEHOW knots and hits me. why. pain. how do I stop bind knots from happening? please. someone. tell. me. it. hurts. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/2 "2022-07-31T20:31:52Z")
> [@Spiked\_Elixer](#): > > how do I stop bind knots from happening? More practice and more pain. ---
**Author:** ![Xinck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xinck/32/194572_2.png) [@Xinck](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xinck)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/3 "2022-07-31T20:45:32Z")
I don’t know if I’ve gotten these but typically that sounds like if you have like a ‘tail’ that you have too much string on the nth side of the bind - try making that ‘loop’ smaller and typically that helps my binds be nice and tight - in a way just thinking ‘the bare minimum’ in terms of how much slack is needed inside to bind. I also do consistently (second nature at this point) check by throwing front style and binding for sure cleanly before doing a hard sideways throw for a series of tricks if I think the last bind I did was in anyway suspicious. Or just in general sometimes for string tension ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/4 "2022-07-31T20:54:10Z")
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**Author:** ![Shapapy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shapapy/32/141199_2.png) [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/5 "2022-07-31T20:54:38Z")
> [@TheThrowingGnome](#): > > More practice and more pain. This may sound harsh to some, but is 100% true. It also changes from yoyo to yoyo and, depending on gap thickness and other factors, you may have to adjust how much string to allow into the gap to activate a bind. Eventually, with lots of practice (and pain), you’ll start to develop a feel for it. It’ll still happen, but you’ll at least be more aware of snags before throwing a wild breakaway into your own head. ---
**Author:** ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/6 "2022-07-31T22:18:09Z")
How about a video? A video is worth 10,000 words. We need more details. ….What you are saying is about as useful as if you said, ‘Every time I jump out my bedroom window, it hurts when I land. What should I do’ …Well, first off, how many floors up from the ground is your bedroom window? A video would show us ‘what’ you are doing and provide a lot more depth about how to rectify the situation. ---
**Author:** ![chrisnotes86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisnotes86/32/173173_2.png) [@chrisnotes86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/chrisnotes86)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/7 "2022-07-31T22:33:21Z")
Hmmm. This is interesting…so I sometimes have tangled or unclean binds and never get this type of pain your mentioning, Is your arm a cannon? Must be throwing super hard and binding immediately to experience this sort of pain. ---
**Author:** ![safetypin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/safetypin/32/128453_2.png) [@safetypin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safetypin)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/8 "2022-08-01T10:51:02Z")
My first thought was to suggest slower throws. I also think we need a more detailed description of what is happening to you. I don’t think I’ve ever had a bind create a knot and come back early due to that knot. I’ve had a bind come back faster than I expected because the yoyo was spinning faster than I thought it was. And I’ve had an extra wrap lock around the string halfway through a bind that caused the yoyo to come back earlier than expected when I threw it next time. That kind of knot seems (to me) the most likely way a yoyo will hurt. If you’re throwing a breakaway, your face is unfortunately placed roughly halfway between your hands, and I’ve had my glasses bumped by a yoyo that came back early during a breakaway. If the yo-yo had been just a little closer, i would have gotten a black eye. I’ve also had a yoyo unintentionally bind in the middle of a trick and slam into my fingers/knuckles. That is probably the most often way I get hurt by a yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![erebus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/erebus/32/156121_2.png) [@erebus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/erebus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/9 "2022-08-01T11:21:02Z")
Why don’t ye check thy string Tention ---
**Author:** ![shreddingtheyodawg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shreddingtheyodawg/32/177046_2.png) [@shreddingtheyodawg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shreddingtheyodawg)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/10 "2022-08-01T11:27:19Z")
Ah you beat me to it. Check string tension for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Shapapy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shapapy/32/141199_2.png) [@Shapapy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shapapy)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/11 "2022-08-01T13:13:17Z")
I just came to add this to my previous response. Tension/Torsion is definitely the main cause of string snags and super knots. ---
**Author:** ![Schtang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/schtang/32/121928_2.png) [@Schtang](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Schtang)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/never-ending-pain/360656/12 "2022-08-03T23:10:23Z")
Always important to do a safety throw if the bind feels a little loose with too much tail