# Needing help and suggestions for both 4a and 1a

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/needing-help-and-suggestions-for-both-4a-and-1a/318051>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [April 10, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/needing-help-and-suggestions-for-both-4a-and-1a/318051 "2020-04-10T02:30:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![DJBOOOI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/45deac/32.png) [@DJBOOOI](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DJBOOOI)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/needing-help-and-suggestions-for-both-4a-and-1a/318051/1 "2020-04-10T02:30:44Z")

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I’ve been practicing a lot with my offstring yoyo lately, and thus far I can do the basic throw, barrel rolls, toss and catch, and can kind of do the overhand whip. All I’ve managed for 1a is the basic sleeper, a few picture tricks, and can kind of do the trapeze. Does anyone have any tips for:  
Offstring

- New tricks to try that are easier with what I know
- Easier method for learning orbits and back burner

1a

- Fix my missing with trapeze
- Fix yoyo losing spin and/or snagging when attempting brain twister mount

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**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/needing-help-and-suggestions-for-both-4a-and-1a/318051/2 "2020-04-10T02:41:31Z")

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Welcome to the Forum! With Brain Twister mounts - a really strong and straight throw works best and not letting both index fingers drift too far apart helps. Not sure exactly which type of BT mount you are attempting - I know two. Either one just takes practice. Don’t let your finger get too close to the yoyo because it will cause snagging.

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**Author:** ![b.burgess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@b.burgess](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/b.burgess)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/needing-help-and-suggestions-for-both-4a-and-1a/318051/3 "2020-04-10T18:29:09Z")

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If you have trouble landing trapezes and can’t get the yo-yo to sleep long enough I would say you really just gotta keep practicing, get more comfortable with the yo-yo and how it moves and eventually you’ll start to get it.