# need new YOYO.... Dark Magic???
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-new-yoyo-dark-magic/15218
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [June 5, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-new-yoyo-dark-magic/15218 "2010-06-05T15:09:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saskabilly_Psychosis)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-new-yoyo-dark-magic/15218/21 "2010-06-30T14:53:52Z")
i just ordered a DM the other day. i didnt want a protostar, they arent appealing to me
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### Author:  [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-new-yoyo-dark-magic/15218/22 "2010-06-30T15:32:43Z")
i got a dm (first yoyo), hate it, it is not like your first car at all. \>:( then i got an axiom soo much better
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### Author:  [@Saskabilly\_Psychosis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Saskabilly_Psychosis)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-new-yoyo-dark-magic/15218/23 "2010-06-30T23:23:44Z")
i cant afford an Axiom. and if i was gonna get an all metal yoyojam yoyo id get the trinity. Andre is the man.
what do you prefer about the Axiom?
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### Author:  [@BuddhaFusion](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BuddhaFusion)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-new-yoyo-dark-magic/15218/24 "2010-06-30T23:38:01Z")
i had a dm as first really good yoyo i liked it a bunch its still really good but then last saturday at BLC… i got a red protostar amazing can hit everything i threw at it i recomemend it so much!
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### Author:  [@sa11297](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sa11297)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-new-yoyo-dark-magic/15218/25 "2010-06-30T23:48:26Z")
well i got the axiom used for $35 so thats a better price than a new one. its pretty small which I like. it also has silicone pads on both sides which i like. huge gap which i love! but its not for a beginner.
if you want a plastic then you can get a protostar. if u want a more responsive plastic then maybe a journey, kickside, etc. (great for beginners). If you want a metal and plastic then i would still recommend the dm but only if you want a metal and plastic. If you want a full metal then maybe a dingo, maybe… because it is cheap but i would rather get a metal of the b/s/t. 🙂
the dm’s half oring half starburst is not that great in my opinion. double oring is better because then you can change it to double silicone. i dont like the half plastic and half metal. but if you think you want it, i recommend getting some silicone, lube and/or spacers. :wink:
hope i helped.
So what you would want is a plastic, dm or maybe if you think you can handle the unresponsive play a protostar. 😃
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