# Need help with sage unresponsive conversion

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**Created:** [February 25, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215 "2024-02-25T20:53:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![buddyjed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@buddyjed](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buddyjed)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215/1 "2024-02-25T20:53:28Z")

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I got a older sage and tried to convert it to unresponsive, I switched the barring and response pads out but had no luck. Its insanely vibey and plays responsive still. I’ve seen people have a unresponsive sage so i know its possible. Also the axle its insanely glued which is annoying but could that be the issue???

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**Author:** ![Yooo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooo/32/196320_2.png) [@Yooo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yooo)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215/2 "2024-02-25T21:09:32Z")

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Could the glue be grabbing the bearing? Are you sure the bearing doesn’t need cleaned? Does it play unresponsive in other yoyos?

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**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215/3 "2024-02-25T22:29:02Z")

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My older Sage was also pretty vibey straight out of the box, and SUPER responsive. I watch some of the tutorial videos and wonder how they got it so smooth and long spinning, haha.

I put a full size C bearing in it without flooding and it still plays responsive and tough to maintain good spin times.

It’s still WIP personally, but mine came with really thick pads though, did you swap those out with ones that are flush or recessed a bit?

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**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215/4 "2024-02-26T02:55:29Z")

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Make sure the bearing is seated properly. Should click flat agai st the yoyo half.

Pictures alos help us.

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**Author:** ![buddyjed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@buddyjed](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buddyjed)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215/5 "2024-03-06T11:37:58Z")

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Sorry for the long response but that could be it, the bearing is new so i assume its good, i tried with multiple bearings as well

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**Author:** ![buddyjed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@buddyjed](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buddyjed)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215/6 "2024-03-06T11:38:53Z")

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I did swap the pads out, do you have the link for that video you saw??

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**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-sage-unresponsive-conversion/395215/7 "2024-03-06T14:39:25Z")

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Not yet, I’ve been super lazy to be honest, and I also had the updated Sage so the older had been kind of just sitting there and watching, thinking about what it did. I ended up using it more as a responsive set-up in the end even with the full size C bearing as a result, but it still wasn’t a go-to. The updated Sage was really nice for both though for sure.

A lot of the older Yo Tricks tutorials use the original Sage on it though, so it is possible  
They have a YouTube page if you want to look through those, I don’t want to post the link directly because the description links their shop and I’m trying to play by the rules, haha!
