# Need help with Fixed Axle
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [February 4, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151 "2016-02-04T19:43:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@olam1794](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/olam1794)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/1 "2016-02-04T19:43:42Z")
So, I just got my new TMBR Irving in the mail and being that this is my first real fixed axle (aside from duncan imperials), I’m having trouble. Is it supposed to be responsive? Like, with string tension in the middle, a normal tug on the string WILL NOT bring the yoyo back. It’s like unresponsive? I mean, I’m okay with binding but it doesn’t have much spin time blah blah blah… I can’t figure out how to snap start
it either. I’m starting to get frustrated so someone mind helping me out?
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### Author:  [@Fuzzwad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Fuzzwad)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/2 "2016-02-04T21:13:45Z")
I’ve never played fixie before, but it’s definitely supposed to be responsive (a tug brings it back). It’s a whole different style of play. That’s pretty much all I know about it, but I hope it helps!
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### Author:  [@StringSamurai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/StringSamurai)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/3 "2016-02-04T21:44:29Z")
Try adjusted the string tension tighter than you are used to.
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### Author:  [@olam1794](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/olam1794)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/4 "2016-02-04T22:01:00Z")
I considered that, but I hear you should only do that if you are looping, as tightening the string will wear down the axle.
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### Author:  [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/5 "2016-02-05T00:15:43Z")
First off, what type of string are you using? Cotton or maybe cotton poly 50/50 is what you should use. If you are using one of those then it’s probably your string tension as mentioned before. Hope this helps!
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### Author:  [@Rosenberg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rosenberg)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/6 "2016-02-05T00:26:31Z")
I would start with trying type 10 cotton. Follow that up with changing your profile picture.
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### Author:  [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/7 "2016-02-05T00:33:15Z")
A new string is always pretty unresponsive. You can increase your tension, it won’t wear your axle. Neutral tension is kind of unresponsive on a fixie. Keep at it and don’t get discouraged. It’s not as easy as an unresponsive yoyo. Learning how to get the most out of it is half ( or more) of the fun.
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### Author:  [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/8 "2016-02-05T00:47:12Z")
Definitely use more string tension that you think you need. I’m using the YoYo Expert type 8 string now on my eH, after a few days of figuring things out, I’ve started making progress.
Enjoy the journey. Don’t rush it. Celebrate little successes.
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### Author:  [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/9 "2016-02-05T00:50:04Z")
> [@French](#):
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> Definitely use more string tension that you think you need. I’m using the YoYo Expert type 8 string now on my eH, after a few days of figuring things out, I’ve started making progress.
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> Enjoy the journey. Don’t rush it. Celebrate little successes.
Oh, I hate the type-8 they sell here. You’re putting yourself at a disadvantage using it. Too thin. Badly made. Inconsistent. Probably the worst cotton string I’ve ever used. The type-10 is good, though.
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### Author:  [@Cannon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cannon)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/10 "2016-02-05T00:55:19Z")
> [@yooldman](#):
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> Oh, I hate the type-8 they sell here. You’re putting yourself at a disadvantage using it. Too thin. Badly made. Inconsistent. Probably the worst cotton string I’ve ever used. The type-10 is good, though.
What kind do you like? (Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread)
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### Author:  [@olam1794](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/olam1794)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/11 "2016-02-05T01:02:56Z")
I use %100 cotton yoyoexpert string. I’ll try increasing my string tension.
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### Author:  [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/12 "2016-02-05T01:08:49Z")
The type-10 sold here (100 packs only) is a very good string.
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### Author:  [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/13 "2016-02-05T01:13:04Z")
welcome to fixed axle. if you’re getting frustrated, you’re on the right path.
as has been said, definitely work with your string tension. the irving can be pretty unresponsive, but with the right string and string tension, it can also play nice and snappy. what kinds of tricks do you want to do? the irving is (imo) more geared toward doing sleeping fixed axle string tricks than it is toward stalls, regens, loops, and moons. same with the lovejoy. you can still do just about anything with it, but it can be harder to control and has a steeper learning curve for some things. type 10 is definitely the way to go for those narrow-axle tmbr’s.
above all though, stick with it. fixed axle is the ultimate equalizer in yo-yoing. there’s nowhere to hide, no shortcuts, and nothing for it but to stick with it and learn what works for you and your setup. i assure you, that irving is capable of some crazy stuff. stick it out, and it’ll reward you.
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### Author:  [@olam1794](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/olam1794)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/14 "2016-02-05T02:08:59Z")
Any tips on how to snap start?
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### Author:  [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/15 "2016-02-05T02:20:59Z")
> [@olam1794](#):
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> Any tips on how to snap start?
Do it one thousand times…repeat.
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### Author:  [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/16 "2016-02-05T02:46:55Z")
> [@yooldman](#):
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> Do it one thousand times…repeat.
Seems like this is the “secret” to all fixed axle, yoyo, and, life. I believe I’ve read in a Malcom Gladwell book that 10,000 hours of practice makes a master.
That said, the trick dumptrucks looks so easy when you watch Ed, but, watching me try to figure it out and you would think I’m doing a Hiroyuki Suzuki speed combo on a mighty flea while wearing a blindfold and Mickey Mouse gloves… But I love it!
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### Author:  [@Yo\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo_2)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/17 "2016-02-05T04:21:14Z")
All the advice so far has been spot on. It’s a different animal. I definitely struggled with the snap start. What I’m going to say is probably not what you want to hear, but I found that learning to snap start was 100 times easier with an Eh. After I learned on that yoyo, it became easier on all my fixies. I Know it represents a significant investment, but it really is worth it. It’s like learning to play guitar on a really nice instrument…everything is easier. That’s not to say that you won’t eventually get it; you will, but it’s my experience that you can accelerate the learning with an Eh. Now I can pretty much snap start any fixed yoyo…even if the string isn’t type 10 (which is better…by the way). Good luck.
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### Author:  [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/18 "2016-02-05T13:37:30Z")
> [@Rosenberg](#):
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> I would start with trying type 10 cotton. Follow that up with changing your profile picture.
Hahaha! I see what you did there.
I just started Fixed and had these same problems for a little while.
Responsiveness- When starting out, moar tension is better. Especially with a fresh string, do sidewinders until it’s so tight it won’t sleep, then back off a little. As soon as it’s not as responsive as you like, tighten the string more. Don’t worry about the axle, it will take a while to wear, and when it does, it will not be due to string tension.
Snap Starts- This is the most important trick. It just makes things easier. Remember with responsive you want to try and snap UP so the yoyo had plenty of slack. In unresponsive you snap down then bind, but not here. Like was said before, after the first 10,000 or so, you’ll start to get better at it.
Finally, Fixed is a lot of fun. Watch some of Drew and Ed’s videos, but not too many. They are probably witches that would have been burned at the stake a couple hundred years ago 😃
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### Author:  [@olam1794](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/olam1794)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/19 "2016-02-05T16:27:44Z")
Where can I get type 10 string? (Now I use 100% cotton yoyoexpert string.)
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### Author:  [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-fixed-axle/79151/20 "2016-02-05T16:35:17Z")
> [@olam1794](#):
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> Where can I get type 10 string? (Now I use 100% cotton yoyoexpert string.)
It used to be one of the options in the drop down box for the YYE 100% cotton.
I don’t see it now though.
I also use type 10 and like it a lot.
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