# Need help with a few tricks...

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [February 4, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-a-few-tricks/34541 "2012-02-04T10:23:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![YoyoDev](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/0ea827/32.png) [@YoyoDev](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoDev)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-a-few-tricks/34541/1 "2012-02-04T10:23:39Z")

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Ok, im on advanced part two with some expert part 1, i need help with the following (Also my throws are fine, with a bad throw i get 1-2min sleepers, im using DM 2):

Revolutions - the yoyo either stops spinning , even though i inside loop first, or it doesnt create a loop

Thumb Grind - the yoyo just stops and doesnt actually revolve, no idea, even though im using DM2

Iron whip - qatched the tut. countless times but i just cant do it, maybe the loop isnt forming or something

Wrist mount DISMOUNT - i only get the popping dismount, when i try roll it like, goes on the wrong string and knots

THANK YOU for any help in advance!

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**Author:** ![pickle24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pickle24/32/483_2.png) [@pickle24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pickle24)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-a-few-tricks/34541/2 "2012-02-04T17:06:03Z")

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Revos: Make sure your moving your wrist toward the opposite side the yoyo is on, so the yoyo doesn’t tilt out.

TG: Despite the fact that Andre does it, DM’s really aren’t that good for TG’s. But you might try using a different lip on the yoyo.

Iron whip: Biggest thing is to aim you pointer finger straight into the gap of the yoyo. And remember to make a sort of arc with your hand when whipping.

Wrist mount: Really all this is letting the yoyo fall out of the wrist mount on side closer to you. This alone will dismount the yoyo. The added flare here is that a trapeze is created via the string directly connected to the yoyo. As long as this trapeze is on the side closest to you, it won’t form a knot.

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**Author:** ![MrSquirrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mrsquirrel/32/1008_2.png) [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-a-few-tricks/34541/3 "2012-02-04T21:03:34Z")

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also with revolutions there are 2 things i figured out:

1. make sure your string doesnt have too much tension
2. make sure you pinch the string hard enough. i was pinching, but not hard enough. the string slipped through my fingers so the loop didnt form

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**Author:** ![yigil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c4cdca/32.png) [@yigil](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yigil)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-with-a-few-tricks/34541/4 "2012-02-08T18:48:10Z")

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Revolutions- Try slowing down your revolutions, and keep them smooth. Also, good string tension will give you a better loop.

Thumb grind - Can’t help there. Andre is crazy with his grinds

Iron whip - String tension was what was throwing me off. A Nice, loose string will give you a good loop. This one just takes a lot of practice.

Wrist - On your second roll, try moving your throw hand forward a bit and your non throw hand towards you, just a bit. This should help guide the yoyo onto the back string. When it lands on the back string, just drop all the other strings, and you will be left in a trapeze.  
Hope this helps somewhat
