# need help please

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-please/32636
**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks
**Created:** [December 14, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-please/32636 "2011-12-14T13:19:49Z")
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### Author: ![scarecrow1298](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/scarecrow1298/32/760_2.png) [@scarecrow1298](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/scarecrow1298)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-please/32636/1 "2011-12-14T13:19:49Z")

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I’ve been practicing this trick for a while now, I got most of the elements down but I cant figure out whats going on at the end…it looks like the mount to go into a side style gyro flop too me but when I try to do the movements I end up getting fudging it doesn’t at all turn out the way its suppose to…its like I end up in a trapeze with the loop around my throw hand index finger…any tips or thoughts?

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/f/a/ffa9eedc7638f0a6b086752b5261fec61e44249b.jpeg "High Speed Breakdown: Lotus Bloom") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DNUqPK9Bvk)

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### Author: ![Rika-chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rika-chan/32/767_2.png) [@Rika-chan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rika-chan)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-please/32636/2 "2011-12-14T14:32:15Z")

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> [@scarecrow1298](#):
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> I’ve been practicing this trick for a while now, I got most of the elements down but I cant figure out whats going on at the end…it looks like the mount to go into a side style gyro flop too me but when I try to do the movements I end up getting fudging it doesn’t at all turn out the way its suppose to…its like I end up in a trapeze with the loop around my throw hand index finger…any tips or thoughts?
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DNUqPK9Bvk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DNUqPK9Bvk)

Film what your doing. Then we can help.

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### Author: ![bigkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@bigkat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bigkat)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-please/32636/3 "2011-12-14T19:46:03Z")

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Have you looked at this video?

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/b/8/2b8e8d034b3c527abc894b6c73d3356162bcfa66.jpeg "Lotus Bloom Tutorial") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQvXv-8yYuU)

This is how I learned it.