# Need help identifying and any history on this yoyo appreciated
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [June 5, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649 "2024-06-05T18:53:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/1 "2024-06-05T18:53:49Z")
The extent of what I know is that it is old (probably the 90s) and was manufactured in the US.
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### Author:  [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/2 "2024-06-05T18:56:18Z")
Whatever it is, it looks like it inspired the Deeper State pretty good
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### Author:  [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/3 "2024-06-05T22:24:13Z")
Dude, I almost snagged this this morning but I know nothing about it so I figured I’d leave it for someone that would appreciate it more. I definitely thought of the deep/deeper state when I saw it. It looks cool.
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### Author:  [@kretzschmar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/kretzschmar)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/4 "2024-06-05T22:32:19Z")
It really draws my eye, but it doesn’t look like it has any response so I’m curious how it would play.
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### Author:  [@Yodaddyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yodaddyo)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/5 "2024-06-05T22:33:49Z")
Ohh, weird! I guess I just assumed it was black pads that I couldn’t see or something. Very good point. I’m curious now too.
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### Author:  [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/6 "2024-06-06T01:50:54Z")
Ohh this is neat it’s like a deep state but the response of a tk silver bullet
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### Author:  [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/7 "2024-06-06T02:19:54Z")
You could always add Turbo Discs to it. 🤙
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### Author:  [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/8 "2024-06-06T02:57:44Z")
Looks like a Yomega Wing Force to me almost, the edges aren’t as round, but it’s close
It looks like they had a handful of design changes as they were producing, but I can’t find good visuals between what those were.
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### Author:  [@Grendel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Grendel)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/9 "2024-06-06T03:41:10Z")
Interesting. I’ve never seen one of those before. The only thing that looks poor is the lettering. Pretty sure I see tool marks.
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### Author:  [@YoyoGeezer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoyoGeezer)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/11 "2024-06-06T03:57:40Z")
> [@kretzschmar](#):
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> … it is old (probably the 90s)
That hurts… 🤨
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### Author:  [@TryCatchThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TryCatchThrow)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-identifying-and-any-history-on-this-yoyo-appreciated/402649/12 "2024-06-06T15:53:56Z")
