# Need help choosing a new z-stack yoyo

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**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [December 20, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-choosing-a-new-z-stack-yoyo/82704 "2016-12-20T15:48:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![NoreasonTacos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noreasontacos/32/682653_2.png) [@NoreasonTacos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NoreasonTacos)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-choosing-a-new-z-stack-yoyo/82704/1 "2016-12-20T15:48:50Z")

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I recently got an Auldey Flame Soul and fell in love with spinning side caps. Now I am looking for a new yoyo that has more traditional z/t/whatever stacks. My priorities are a large catch zone (without coveringr the rims) and stability. As quiet as possible is also ideal since my wife is really sensitive to sound.

Some things I’m considering:

- Madhouse EPIC - the TA-Ta system looks awesome, but the price is intimidating. I’d prefer $50, but if this is truly the best of the best for hubstacks I have to consider it…
- Auldey orbis (or other metal compatible yoyo) with the large hubstack center unit accessory - looks promising but I can’t tell what size bearing sits in the hubstack, or if it’s easy to remove/replace
- YoYoEmpire Tsunami - saw a video of this being ripcord started but can’t tell if it actually has 3 bearings, or just 1 and smooth fingerspin cups

I would love to find something with C bearings on the side caps so I could fill it with smooth, quiet 10-ball bearings. But the only yoyos I’ve found like this are the ninedragons and those with V5 catch units. I have a finhop Jet Fire and definitely do not like interior catch zones.

Anyway, I’d be grateful if anyone has advice on these yoyos or knows of size-C side caps.

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**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-choosing-a-new-z-stack-yoyo/82704/2 "2016-12-22T21:22:58Z")

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Magic yoyo n9 floating cloud. You could put standard c size bearings and a hubstack kit on it or keep the stock stacks. I have never heard of the others you mentioned, but I do own the n9.

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**Author:** ![darkmagicII](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/darkmagicii/32/7951_2.png) [@darkmagicII](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/darkmagicII)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-choosing-a-new-z-stack-yoyo/82704/3 "2016-12-24T14:03:07Z")

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N9 does NOT fit c size and the Hubstacks are oversized. False. The stock stacks will need to be lubed; it is LOUD.

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**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-help-choosing-a-new-z-stack-yoyo/82704/4 "2016-12-24T14:18:19Z")

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> [@darkmagicII](#):
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> N9 does NOT fit c size and the Hubstacks are oversized. False. The stock stacks will need to be lubed; it is LOUD.

Actually, while the n9s hubstacks bearing outer diameter is not the same size, the posts DO fit size c bearings, I have made them out of two size c bearings, a Lego tire, and a square Lego box. If Noreasontacos wanted to put dice stacks or some other hubstack kit at yoyoexpert, it would fit.