# Need a new yoyo **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 22, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089 "2010-12-22T19:13:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yoyofanatic123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5e925/32.png) [@yoyofanatic123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofanatic123)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089/1 "2010-12-22T19:13:56Z")
ok so I’m new and I was looking at the Dark Magic 2. it looks good from the reviews, but i hear that people like the double o-ring response better than the silicone o-rings. can i put double o-rings into the Dark Magic 2? and i was also wondering which one you guys like better, the Dark Magic 2 or Northstar or Hitman ---
**Author:** ![gtyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@gtyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gtyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089/2 "2010-12-22T20:25:32Z")
Are you are trying to compare rubber O-rings to silicone O-rings? Or silicone O-rings to silicone stickers? I like them in this order: Sticker \> sili O-ring = Rubber O-ring Stickers can get expensive, because they tend to not last as long, especially if you don’t keep your yoyo clean. Performance-wise, I like the stickers, because they make my yoyo feel smoother than O-rings. Once the O-rings are worn in, they feel relatively the same. The recess that holds O-rings tends to be deeper than the recess that holds stickers, so you can easily fill them with flowable silicone. I like Dark Magic 2. You may also want to check out SR-71. ---
**Author:** ![yomaster07](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/6bbea6/32.png) [@yomaster07](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yomaster07)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089/3 "2010-12-23T00:46:13Z")
what yoyos do you currently own?? whats your price range??? my protostar is a fantastic yoyo and my brother has a revolution which is also very good. ---
**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089/4 "2010-12-23T01:44:48Z")
I personally enjoy any hybrid or o-ring system because I think it does a great job of coming back when you want it to. And, you DON’T have to replace O-rings as to silicone, you do almost every week and it gets irritating (at least to me it is). It makes a big mess; especially if you get silicone [flowable] on you hands. It takes forever to scrub off. You also have to keep buying silicone to keep your yoyo binding correctly (or you can buy pre-made rings here at YYE, but it still costs money). O-rings are clean and low maintainance. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![j\_lowell9](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/j_lowell9/32/358_2.png) [@j\_lowell9](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/j_lowell9)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089/5 "2010-12-23T03:10:55Z")
> [@brandoide1](#): > > I personally enjoy any hybrid or o-ring system because I think it does a great job of coming back when you want it to. And, you DON’T have to replace O-rings as to silicone, you do almost every week and it gets irritating (at least to me it is). It makes a big mess; especially if you get silicone [flowable] on you hands. It takes forever to scrub off. You also have to keep buying silicone to keep your yoyo binding correctly (or you can buy pre-made rings here at YYE, but it still costs money). O-rings are clean and low maintainance. :wink: If I flowable a yoyo it lasts 3 months of hard play I prefer the hit man (pro) ---
**Author:** ![yoyofanatic123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5e925/32.png) [@yoyofanatic123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofanatic123)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089/6 "2010-12-25T00:52:04Z")
i’m completely new to yoyos. i’ve only played with some of my friend’s and i was looking for a good one to start with. I know how to bind so unresponsive yoyos are no problem. And my price range is around 40. Also i’m still confused about the difference of silicone o-rings to normal o-rings. Like do they both last for a while and can use them for a long time or do i have to replace silicone o-rings often. and if i do, could i just replace the silicone o-rings with normal o-rings? ---
**Author:** ![brandoide1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/brandoide1/32/662_2.png) [@brandoide1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/brandoide1)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-yoyo/22089/7 "2010-12-25T16:01:19Z")
You will always have to replace silicone, but that response make your yoyo play smoother. O-rings you never have to replace, but your yoyo won’t be as smooth. From your criteria, you might like a Dark magic (version 2) or maybe a northstar. They are both around $40.