# Need a new under $20 yo-yo **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [December 14, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195 "2009-12-14T06:55:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hahutzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea666f/32.png) [@Hahutzy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hahutzy)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/1 "2009-12-14T06:55:18Z")
- I’m looking for a new yo-yo, provided that I can get a better one than my current for under $20 - I’ve read through some posts, most point to YYJ Lyn Fury or YYF Stackless PGM (SPGM’s no longer sold, is a Die-Nasty just as good?) - Doing string tricks mostly, so I’m looking for longest sleep time, unresponsive out of the box (I bind), and adjustable gap preferably (not required) - Currently have a “Super Aqua Dragon” [[pic](http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4093/drago3.jpg)] (I was told it looks like a Yomega Hyperwarp Wing, with slightly diff. specs) - It sleeps for a decent amount of time (I think around 2 minutes) Specs: ```auto Shape Butterfly / Wing Weight 42g (lighter than YHMM's 54.40g) Width 35mm (wider than YHWW's 30.34mm) Diameter 59mm (bigger than YHWW's 57.53mm) Gap Type Fixed (same as YMHH) Stock Response System Starburst (same as YMHH) ``` Based on all that info, would it be a good idea to get a new under-20 yo-yo? Or is my Super Aqua Dragon right up there with the best uder-20 yo-yos? Or maybe a new bearing for my Super Aqua Dragon would put it above the rest? Insight appreciated. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/2 "2009-12-14T13:49:34Z")
As said in the past, no yoyo is better than another, just different. You could go with any of the plastics from YYJ, YYF, or just about any other company. All of them are good. If they weren’t good, why would they be sold? ---
**Author:** ![RookieYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rookieyo/32/290_2.png) [@RookieYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RookieYo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/3 "2009-12-14T14:53:43Z")
Yeah… Since you are new. Just choose anything… With that you will find your preferences… ---
**Author:** ![benyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@benyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/benyo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/4 "2009-12-14T22:58:02Z")
responsive or not? responsive yoyo would be the velocity, and not would be the pocket change. but really, up to you. ---
**Author:** ![boywhoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/boywhoyo/32/90_2.png) [@boywhoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/boywhoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/5 "2009-12-14T23:03:22Z")
> [@Hahutzy](#): > > - Doing string tricks mostly, so I’m looking for longest sleep time, unresponsive out of the box (I bind), and adjustable gap preferably (not required) > [@benyo](#): > > responsive or not? responsive yoyo would be the velocity, and not would be the pocket change. but really, up to you. ---
**Author:** ![CaliBuddha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/calibuddha/32/156_2.png) [@CaliBuddha](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaliBuddha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/6 "2009-12-15T00:10:34Z")
Velocity is adjustable so they can be responsive OR unresponsive… ---
**Author:** ![Hahutzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea666f/32.png) [@Hahutzy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hahutzy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/7 "2009-12-15T00:25:10Z")
Well as I keep reading more and more, it seems like the Stackless PGM was one of the best under-20 yoyo, but they no longer make them. Is the Die-Nasty anywhere near as good? I know it’s hard to quantify “good”, but there’s gotta be some general consensus. I don’t like the Pocket Change’s colors, to be honest. And I haven’t heard much about the Velocity. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/8 "2009-12-15T03:02:59Z")
All of them are good. Why do you need a new one under $20? ---
**Author:** ![Smoke770077](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/need-a-new-under-20-yo-yo/9195/9 "2009-12-15T03:14:56Z")
If your ready for unresponsive the Die-Nasty is great… One of my favorite throws… If not the Velocity is great too, it plays well responsive AND unresponsive