# My Collection

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299
**Category:** Display Case
**Created:** [August 23, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299 "2019-08-23T17:30:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/21 "2019-08-24T02:48:44Z")

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> [@threebearrries](#):
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> The Metal Arrow on the other hand is described as “slightly undersized” , so I had no real expectations for it

Right but if you dislike slightly undersized, couldn’t you have read the stats page and decided that it was too undersized for your tastes _prior_ to buying it? :thinking:

You keep saying this like you had no idea, no way of knowing, somehow this yo-yo was forced upon you without your knowledge. Provided _you knew you have a massive hate-on for slightly undersized_ (did you?) I don’t see how that could be the case.

Now, if you didn’t realize that preference until you added two of these to your collection and found out while playing them, that’s fine. I get that totally. You gotta try things to learn your preferences.\* And to be honest, I’m with you: the Vayder is about the minimum size I’d even accept in a yo-yo these days. Anything smaller isn’t “mildly undersized”, but full on “undersized” :+1:

It is true that the Vayder is slightly undersized compared to modern yo-yos, 100%, but **I also expect that people know how to read yo-yo stats pages _prior to making a purchase_**. Is this an unreasonable expectation? Should there be a special

> ⚠ BEWARE this is slightly undersized!

warning label on every yo-yo or something? :thinking:

> [@threebearrries](#):
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> the diameter is what’s going to make it feel bigger and better rather than the width.

I’m not so sure about that; there are some very wide yo-yos out there which don’t have large diameters, and I do _not_ think they’d feel “small”.

> [@threebearrries](#):
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> Good thing I think the Metal Arrow is better than the Ti-Vayder,

Unlikely, given the difference in material and very similar sizes. I guess if you actively dislike O / V hybrids and prefer more of a W?

One word of caution: if you have a massive hate-on for mildly undersized, _DO NOT_ ever try a _real_ undersized yo-yo (popstar, etc). I am quite mixed on these myself, the Ministar 2 is pretty decent but I always want to skew bigger like the Recess Snack and even then… ehhh.

\* p.s. don’t marry your high school sweetheart for the same reason, kids!!

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### Author: ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/22 "2019-08-24T03:42:29Z")

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> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Now, if you didn’t realize that preference until you added two of these to your collection and found out while playing them, that’s fine.

This was definitely me. Before the Ti-Vayder, I hadn’t tried any other slightly undersized yoyos, except for the Metal Arrow, which I enjoy, and the MYY N1, my first yoyo ever, so I’m definitely biased towards it.

I’m also the kind of person that likes to try everything, even if I might dislike it, because you can never truly know you’ll dislike something until you try it. This was especially true for the Ti-Vayder. I had never played a titanium yoyo before, and yes, I _did_ notice the slightly undersized specs (I even send you a PM to switch the incorrectly labeled diameter and width!), but as I said before, I wasn’t sure of my opinion on undersized yoyos, and I had thought that with titanium, the yoyo could have a weight distribution that I didn’t expect.

> [@codinghorror](#):
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> I’m not so sure about that; there are some very wide yo-yos out there which don’t have large diameters, and I do _not_ think they’d feel “small”.

Interesting point! I don’t think I’ve tried any superwides, so it’d be interesting to see how they compare.

> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Unlikely, given the difference in material and very similar sizes. I guess if you actively dislike O / V hybrids and prefer more of a W?

I’m standing by this. I’d attribute the better perceived (by me) performance to the 2 grams difference, as well as the slightly larger diameter. I do prefer most other shapes over anything O, but I don’t think that would affect how I judge the performance of each yoyo.

> [@codinghorror](#):
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> a massive hate-on for slightly undersized

Let’s get one thing clear. I’m almost certain that I’ve never made a blanket statement expressing my dislike for _all_ slightly undersized yoyos, that would quite hypocritical; rather I feel like you’ve generalized the statements I’ve made about the Ti-Vayder to all yoyos of the same size.

And honestly, if the Ti-Vayder were to have been released today instead of months ago, I still would buy one. Why? The hype. There’s no way I would pass up on an opportunity to own what some call the best yoyo of all time at an unbeatable price for titanium.

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### Author: ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/23 "2019-08-24T04:03:43Z")

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> [@threebearrries](#):
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> I’m also the kind of person that likes to try everything, even if I might dislike it, because you can never truly know you’ll dislike something until you try it.

Most of my initial purchases after coming back to yoyoing were for this reason. Now I’m very sure about my preferences as I’ve had the opportunity to try stuff that confirmed them for me.

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/24 "2019-08-24T04:30:13Z")

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> [@threebearrries](#):
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> as I said before, I wasn’t sure of my opinion on undersized yoyos

That is fair, if you don’t know you don’t know.

I highly advise you to stay as far away from _actual_ undersized yo-yos as possible. If you had such a severe negative relation to being mildly undersized, you will despise real undersized yo-yos with every fiber of your being.

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### Author: ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/25 "2019-08-24T04:31:36Z")

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Now I have to buy one 👀

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/26 "2019-08-24T04:34:21Z")

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Congratulations. You will hate it.

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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/27 "2019-08-25T09:22:06Z")

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You’re going to be getting this one in the mail soon to add to your collection @threebearrries.

 ![20190825_160628](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/b/8/4b85b7dca1119c825b385a4687520a323a3ce30e.jpeg)

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### Author: ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2019, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/28 "2019-08-25T09:37:17Z")

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I’m speechless

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### Author: ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/29 "2019-08-25T14:40:52Z")

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Any profile pics of that one? The cup is very nice looking.

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### Author: ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/30 "2019-09-18T19:28:34Z")

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A small, significant update to my collection. I’ve basically played with/have everything that I wanted to get/try. Definitely slowing down buying/selling yoyos for now! The only thing I’m really looking at buying is the Magpie to complete my Yoyofriends collection. Metals shown below.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/3/5/435490a0369a406fdc254d6e8bc60d877ea1bd2c.jpeg)

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### Author: ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/31 "2019-09-18T22:01:06Z")

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And the update doesn’t include mine. 😞

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### Author: ![threebearrries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/threebearrries/32/42073_2.png) [@threebearrries](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/threebearrries)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/32 "2019-09-18T23:37:58Z")

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At the time of the picture, the yoyo that you made for me was actually in my backpack downstairs, because I’m using it as an EDC!

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### Author: ![noodles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noodles/32/36467_2.png) [@noodles](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noodles)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2019, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/33 "2019-09-19T03:24:15Z")

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that is an amazing collection

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### Author: ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/34 "2020-07-18T21:01:53Z")

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My school of fish just got a new member!

 ![20200718_114854](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/9/f/79f5b469ec1ad9630fd1057d9dfefbaf82cb83c4.jpeg)

All together:

 ![20200718_125421](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/d/0/6d01ca0e0ba02d246ee6238b58ac53b1e4d879d8.jpeg)  
Duncan  
Barracuda ,YoshicudaX, & BarracudaX

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### Author: ![TheHelveticaScenario](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thehelveticascenario/32/61632_2.png) [@TheHelveticaScenario](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheHelveticaScenario)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/35 "2020-07-19T01:30:07Z")

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nice… have not seen that design yet. Are there more of those somewhere?

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### Author: ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/36 "2020-07-19T01:58:19Z")

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I got it in a trade. Was told it was an unreleased colorway. I don’t know if that means there will be more or if it’s a One off. Either way I’m stoked.  
Maybe @bjardin could fill us in?

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### Author: ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/37 "2020-07-19T02:07:40Z")

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saw this on reddit a while back, wonder if it’s the same one.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Throwers/comments/hc5uny/duncan\_barracuda\_x\_not\_yet\_released\_got\_one\_as\_an/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Throwers/comments/hc5uny/duncan_barracuda_x_not_yet_released_got_one_as_an/)

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### Author: ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2020, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/38 "2020-07-19T06:00:35Z")

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It’s possible. Hey @crash was this you on reddit?

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### Author: ![crash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c0e974/32.png) [@crash](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/crash)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/39 "2020-07-19T15:46:33Z")

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Hiii @Mystik! That’s not me! But that’s exactly how I got my Barracuda X as well though. They were out of stock so they asked me if I wanted an unreleased colourway instead! I am not that active on reddit!

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### Author: ![Mystik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mystik/32/83294_2.png) [@Mystik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mystik)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/my-collection/307299/40 "2020-08-13T22:35:18Z")

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Just saw that Duncan has that colorway available.

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