# Mrcnja's Mods

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\
**Created:** [October 9, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865 "2010-10-09T21:27:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ebilflindas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ebilflindas/32/1123_2.png) [@ebilflindas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ebilflindas)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/101 "2013-01-18T03:04:15Z")

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> [@Navythrow](#):
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> to be in the 75 to 100 range I think they would have to play VERY good. I understand they are hand made one off type pieces, but the price difference between a 100 bucks and the typical 35-50 for a TMBR of great wooden quality, can be a little hard to swallow. I think around 60 would be a sweet spot for these and about what I would be comfortable paying.

But this has aluminum guts and weight rings, too. I imagine there’s a little more work going into these.

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**Author:** ![merger3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@merger3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/merger3)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/102 "2013-01-18T16:17:51Z")

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I think you’re just gonna have to sell them and change the price based on reviews, performance, sales, etc.

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**Author:** ![jasonwongzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jasonwongzero/32/725_2.png) [@jasonwongzero](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jasonwongzero)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/103 "2013-01-18T16:31:25Z")

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75 to 100 is fair to me depending on playability. Eric Wolff yoyos are very finely tuned woods and go for far more.

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/104 "2013-01-19T02:06:58Z")

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> [@Navythrow](#):
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> I understand they are hand made one off type pieces, but the price difference between a 100 bucks and the typical 35-50 for a TMBR of great wooden quality, can be a little hard to swallow.

I certainly see where you are coming from, but I personally don’t feel that a direct comparison can be made between my yo-yo’s and what TMBR makes. Please don’t take this to be any form of narcissism either. TMBR is making all wooden yo-yos, save for some threaded rod on their take apart designs, that are mostly made out of fairly inexpensive domestic wood. Their designs have three, four, or maybe five essential parts (I haven’t really inspected one before so I don’t claim to know the exact number). Those yo-yos also aren’t finished at all, at most they get a quick rub down with 100 grit sandpaper.

My yo-yos are made from more exotic woods and aluminum. Both the aluminum weight rings and the wood are polished to a nice sheen. There are ten distinct parts in all, six of which I make from raw materials. As far as play is concerned, TMBR is all about old school fixed axle play. I am aiming more towards a yo-yo that compares to today’s modern yo-yos with the beauty that turned wood and aluminum accents provide. TMBR has their niche and I may have mine.

> [@merger3](#):
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> I think you’re just gonna have to sell them and change the price based on reviews, performance, sales, etc.

I completely agree. After all, that is the central idea of economics. I’m not trying to make a bunch of money, but I do realize that I put a lot of time and love into each of these yo-yos. Pricing them is tricky because I do everything in house (literally in my basement). I’m not just paying a machine shop to make me a product and then selling it to you with a markup. I have very little that I can directly compare my yo-yos to and I have to be careful to not overvalue my time because of other pressing matters. In short, it’s tricky.

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**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/105 "2013-01-20T16:01:28Z")

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Could you post some more YYJ ring polishing? They look really nice ;).

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/106 "2013-02-18T17:52:10Z")

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I got back to my roots with this one, a silicone recessed Hyper Freehand. This is probably my best sticker lip removal and polish work to date.

[http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8381/8485425219\_559bd1c7ec\_z.jpg](http://www.flickr.com/photos/40551944@N04/8485425219/)

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**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/107 "2013-02-18T18:02:13Z")

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> [@Yummy](#):
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> I got back to my roots with this one, a silicone recessed Hyper Freehand. This is probably my best sticker lip removal and polish work to date.
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> [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8381/8485425219\_559bd1c7ec\_z.jpg](http://www.flickr.com/photos/40551944@N04/8485425219/)

Nice! Looks great!

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**Author:** ![ebilflindas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ebilflindas/32/1123_2.png) [@ebilflindas](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ebilflindas)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/108 "2013-02-18T18:04:40Z")

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Very nice!  
Btw, how are things coming with your wood throws? 8)

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**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/109 "2013-02-18T20:02:15Z")

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> [@Yummy](#):
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> I got back to my roots with this one, a silicone recessed Hyper Freehand. This is probably my best sticker lip removal and polish work to date.
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> [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8381/8485425219\_559bd1c7ec\_z.jpg](http://www.flickr.com/photos/40551944@N04/8485425219/)

Great work man!

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/110 "2013-02-19T01:19:21Z")

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Regarding the woods earlier in the thread: a comparison to TMBR isn’t apt. I’m loving my TMBR yoyos, but the feel and finish isn’t exactly “premium”, which is why they’re only $30. Both of my TMBRs required sanding with fine sandpaper (I used 340, but you could probably get by with 220 if you had to). The Baldwin had rough patches that required filling (I used super glue, a great pore-filler) and further sanding just to be fully playable.

That’s a totally acceptable trade-off for paying only $30 for an otherwise lovely wooden non-factory throw. But hand-finishing as well as more technical design like the ones in Mrcnja’s photos would certainly put them in the $75-100 range. To be honest, he SHOULD charge more for them in order to recover the work; however, the market probably wouldn’t support much more than that despite their true worth.

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/111 "2013-02-21T00:47:10Z")

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> [@ebilflindas](#):
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> Btw, how are things coming with your wood throws?

I haven’t done anything yet, but I have ordered some parts for my lathe (extra jaws and arbors) that will allow me to hold the yo-yos differently and should theoretically fix just about all of my quality control issues. Maybe while I’m waiting I’ll play around with delrin some more. I haven’t done that in some time.

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**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/112 "2013-02-21T21:50:27Z")

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> [@Yummy](#):
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> > [@ebilflindas](#):
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> > Btw, how are things coming with your wood throws?
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> I haven’t done anything yet, but I have ordered some parts for my lathe (extra jaws and arbors) that will allow me to hold the yo-yos differently and should theoretically fix just about all of my quality control issues. Maybe while I’m waiting I’ll play around with delrin some more. I haven’t done that in some time.

DELRIN, DELRIN, DELRIN, DELRIN!!!

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/113 "2013-02-27T20:45:56Z")

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I had some snow days and got to some delrin work. Those following along will remember [my last delrin yo-yo](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,21494.msg513202.html#msg513202):

[http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8485/8196839127\_056bb54a12\_z.jpg](http://www.flickr.com/photos/40551944@N04/8196839127/)

After playing with the old design for some time, I began to get annoyed by it’s weight distribution that I once thought to be perfect. I wanted a little more stability and longer spin times. Both would be a result of more rim weight. So, I reworked the design to accommodate my SPR system and moved some weight from the hub to the rims.

[http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8377/8513128877\_e5d35e1fa9\_z.jpg](http://www.flickr.com/photos/40551944@N04/8513128877/)

Notice the differences in the hubs and rims. I moved roughly a couple grams of mass from the hub to the rim on each half. The result is everything I hoped it to be. It is more solid and stable, although it does not feel anywhere near like a rock on a string. It plays similar to what you would expect from a big name yo-yo manufacturer. Oh, and I made two of them…

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**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/114 "2013-02-27T20:54:07Z")

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That’s awesome mrcnja! Will you be selling it or making more? They could be a hit :D.

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**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/115 "2013-02-27T20:55:46Z")

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Mrcnja, that’s some good stuff. And well-photographed, too (especially the most recent one).

Drool-worthy, indeed!

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**Author:** ![Bcmaddog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bcmaddog/32/1170_2.png) [@Bcmaddog](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Bcmaddog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/116 "2013-02-27T20:58:03Z")

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That is some great photography. The second is best because the lighting is better.

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/117 "2013-02-27T21:43:47Z")

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More light and a better camera has helped the picture quality. Still, it is a pain to capture the texture of white plastic while keeping the picture well lit.

> [@Bcmaddog](#):
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> Will you be selling it or making more? They could be a hit.

We’ll see. :wink:

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**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/118 "2013-02-28T02:04:08Z")

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> [@GregP](#):
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> Mrcnja, that’s some good stuff. And well-photographed, too (especially the most recent one).
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> Drool-worthy, indeed!

exactly!

great, great job. are they nice and smooth?

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**Author:** ![Squaktopus13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/squaktopus13/32/1325_2.png) [@Squaktopus13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Squaktopus13)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/119 "2013-02-28T15:51:53Z")

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Has anybody modded a flying panda? If so pm me i want to take off the rubber rim

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**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mrcnjas-mods/19865/120 "2013-02-28T20:45:09Z")

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A Flying Panda is just a FH2 with rubber rims. If you remove the rubber rims, you have created a FH2 but spent more money for it and wasted some of your time.

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