# MOWL Surveil - AMAZING play but can’t count! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 15, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122 "2021-10-15T19:26:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/1 "2021-10-15T19:26:50Z")
First I need to say that the Surveil is a killer looker AND player. It’s a really fantastic throw I’m happy to own. But as I was admiring the markings on the face I noticed the Roman numerals are wrong! Traditionally the number 4 is “IV” not “IIII” as they have it, but that’s not the error I’m talking about. Check out the 6 which should be “VI” it is printed as “IV”. Just an interesting error I wondered if anyone else had noticed? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/3X/3/8/38ed0b7449e474914d6502e72d8ebfdea49a0c0d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![yoyo7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo7/32/140308_2.png) [@yoyo7](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo7)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/2 "2021-10-15T19:29:49Z")
Maybe they looked at it at a weird angle and were like “this is right” ---
**Author:** ![Almonds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/almonds/32/133810_2.png) [@Almonds](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Almonds)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/3 "2021-10-15T19:33:58Z")
Yeah I noticed, but I just wrote it off as an example of bad english from a japanese company. ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/4 "2021-10-15T19:35:56Z")
Totally could see that. It is just a point of interest I noticed as I was obsessing over the beauty. It’s SUCH a great throw!!! ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/5 "2021-10-15T19:39:28Z")
lol I never noticed that. ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/6 "2021-10-15T19:46:24Z")
Just makes it more valuable like errors on baseball cards or something… ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/7 "2021-10-15T19:57:08Z")
no no no. It’s not an error… it just… like… an artistic expression on the illusion of time. ya know. art! ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/8 "2021-10-15T19:58:11Z")
But Roman numerals aren’t English… ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/9 "2021-10-15T20:00:06Z")
> [@bobafret](#): > > Traditionally the number 4 is “IV” not “IIII” as they have it IIII is pretty common on clocks and watches since it visually balances with the VIII opposing it. ---
**Author:** ![French](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/french/32/70748_2.png) [@French](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/French)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/10 "2021-10-15T20:06:38Z")
You beat me to that answer. ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/11 "2021-10-15T20:11:47Z")
Whoa, I’ve had this clock hanging up for almost 15 years now and I’ve never noticed “IIII” before. I actually assumed that was wrong on the Surveil. Thanks for blowing my mind with clock knowledge I guess. ![IMG_6766](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/5/e/75e3106c655ecafa58306644869ce50de3fbda25.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bobafret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bobafret/32/260814_2.png) [@bobafret](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bobafret)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/12 "2021-10-15T20:32:35Z")
Yeah and “IIII” is technically correct too, which is the reason I said I wasn’t calling that out as an error. But 6 is definitely “VI” in all cases, never “IV” ---
**Author:** ![Almonds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/almonds/32/133810_2.png) [@Almonds](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Almonds)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/mowl-surveil-amazing-play-but-can-t-count/346122/13 "2021-10-15T20:45:14Z")
Its just bad adaption of foreign words or script and I over simplified my explanation lol