# Most underrated and overrated yoyos.

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [July 6, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622 "2015-07-06T03:05:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![LeDave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ledave/32/1590_2.png) [@LeDave](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeDave)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/21 "2015-07-06T21:22:53Z")

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Based on what I have,

Overrated - Summit

Underrated - 6061 Supernova

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**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/22 "2015-07-06T21:51:49Z")

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I think the YYF Cypher is pretty underrated. It’s one of my favorite YoYoFactory yo-yos but doesn’t get nearly as much attention as the Shutter, Too HOT, or Horizon.

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**Author:** ![skyguy01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@skyguy01](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/skyguy01)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/23 "2015-07-07T02:42:47Z")

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Revival is kinda underratted

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**Author:** ![CincoDrums](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cincodrums/32/1600_2.png) [@CincoDrums](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CincoDrums)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/24 "2015-07-07T04:26:07Z")

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Does anyone know of any good yo-yo companies that deserve more recognition? Maybe one that makes high quality yo-yos for really good prices to help out us common folk.

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**Author:** ![mrciurleo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@mrciurleo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mrciurleo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/25 "2015-07-07T04:35:04Z")

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Why does this sound familiar?

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**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/26 "2015-07-07T18:15:09Z")

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> [@CincoDrums](#):
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> Does anyone know of any good yo-yo companies that deserve more recognition? Maybe one that makes high quality yo-yos for really good prices to help out us common folk.

Rebellion makes some really nice stuff for cheap. So does YoYoOfficer.

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**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/27 "2015-07-07T18:40:55Z")

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[quote=“CincoDrums,post:24,topic:75622”]  
Does anyone know of any good yo-yo companies that deserve more recognition? Maybe one that makes high quality yo-yos for really good prices to help out us common folk.  
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Ummm I don’t know when I thought to reply I had the name now I forgot I’ll tell when I remember.

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**Author:** ![LeDave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ledave/32/1590_2.png) [@LeDave](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeDave)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/28 "2015-07-07T18:46:05Z")

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> [@JohnnyJ](#):
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> Rebellion makes some really nice stuff for cheap. So does YoYoOfficer.

Was going to say Yoyofficer as well but you beat me to it.

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**Author:** ![FullthrottleFRS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fullthrottlefrs/32/1551_2.png) [@FullthrottleFRS](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FullthrottleFRS)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/29 "2015-07-07T20:15:32Z")

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It amazes me that 15 SPYY Orbitron 5000’s are still in stock. It’s one of the best organic shapes that I’ve tried. That’s the one in my collection that I feel is most underrated.

I also think the Bapezilla.2 is underrated. I understand why people may be turned off of it due to the string eating problem, but that’s an easy fix, and then it’s a great under/mid-sized organic. Plus, Anti-yo design + OD machining + Side Effects = great quality.

Besides that, I haven’t really tried much else that I feel is underrated. People have mentioned the Cypher, but I don’t fully agree with that. People mostly like theirs, but it just isn’t anything super special. Don’t get me wrong, it’s extremely good, I just don’t think it has the character of the other YYF budget line. The Shutter, Horizon, and Too Hot are all signatures of some awesome pros, and you can tell how each of their play styles oozes out of the design. Yes, the Cypher is a TPxYYF collaboration, so it has Kentaro(?) behind it, but it’s not his signature. Beyond being signatures, the others have additional design elements to aid in extra trick elements; whereas the Cypher is an Organic V that’s only specialty is being a smooth, stable, and fast string hit monster. Like I said, I’m not bashing it, it’s still extremely good for the price. There’s just less to be excited about than the other budget YFF throws, and I think it has an adequate opinion among the community. I’d even argue that some of the others are edging on being slightly overrated and over hyped.

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**Author:** ![doug77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@doug77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/doug77)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/30 "2015-07-08T00:19:45Z")

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> [@FullthrottleFRS](#):
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> It amazes me that 15 SPYY Orbitron 5000’s are still in stock. It’s one of the best organic shapes that I’ve tried. That’s the one in my collection that I feel is most underrated.

I completely agree. Picked up an Orbitron in a trade at MWR, and I’m just amazed at what a fun throw this is…super smooth too.

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**Author:** ![Yoyordy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8c91f0/32.png) [@Yoyordy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyordy)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/31 "2015-07-08T00:56:33Z")

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> [@doug77](#):
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> I completely agree. Picked up an Orbitron in a trade at MWR, and I’m just amazed at what a fun throw this is…super smooth too.

Me 3 I love mine.

To FullthrottleFRS: It’s not sold out because all anyone cares about is being sponsored and a company thats gone can’t sponsor you

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**Author:** ![rizki\_yoist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rizki_yoist/32/7925_2.png) [@rizki\_yoist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rizki_yoist)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/32 "2015-07-08T01:28:20Z")

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Overrated: Most CLYW, YYR  
Underrated: Most Yoyojam, Yomega Elite series.

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**Author:** ![Tolkienfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tolkienfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tolkienfan)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/33 "2015-07-08T01:57:25Z")

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Underrated: Duncan Torque, I tried a friend’s and it was much better than expected. I’m not saying it was anywhere near the best budget metal or that it was super amazing, but neither was it the old fashioned Duncan yoyo you might expect. I think it deserves a lot more credit than it gets.

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**Author:** ![Cobra9271](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cobra9271/32/1488_2.png) [@Cobra9271](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Cobra9271)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/34 "2015-07-08T15:42:13Z")

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the underatedness that is the yoyo officer orbis its sooo stable has a great shape has good fingerspins and grinds

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**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/35 "2015-07-08T18:14:39Z")

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> [@rizki\_yoist](#):
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> Overrated: Most CLYW, YYR  
> Underrated: Most Yoyojam, Yomega Elite series.

I agree with you on the YYR part. YYR is super nice, don’t get me wrong, but they aren’t quite as next level in performance as most people suggest.

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**Author:** ![naoki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/naoki/32/843_2.png) [@naoki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/naoki)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/36 "2015-07-08T18:17:43Z")

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lol

today, maybe, but go back to 2009 and compare most yoyos available then with the Sleipnir, then we’ll be able to have a talk about YYR being overrated

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**Author:** ![KiLbUcK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kilbuck/32/794_2.png) [@KiLbUcK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KiLbUcK)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/37 "2015-07-08T18:56:25Z")

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> [@naoki](#):
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> lol
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> today, maybe, but go back to 2009 and compare most yoyos available then with the Sleipnir, then we’ll be able to have a talk about YYR being overrated

I don’t get it. Why would anyone compare a 6 year old yoyo to a Sleipnir? However, I did kind of notice how the new Titanium Dream seems to play a little better than my Duncan Imperial. :o

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**Author:** ![YOYOJAMizm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamizm/32/774_2.png) [@YOYOJAMizm](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YOYOJAMizm)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/38 "2015-07-08T19:21:28Z")

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> [@KiLbUcK](#):
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> I don’t get it. Why would anyone compare a 6 year old yoyo to a Sleipnir? However, I did kind of notice how the new Titanium Dream seems to play a little better than my Duncan Imperial. :o

the point naoki is making is that when the sleipnir, messiah, clash, etc. were all released they were ACTUALLY that much better.  
for when a lot of YYR came out they were some of the best yoyos on the market.

i still consider the sleipnir one of the best in my collection.

id say now a lot of them might be overrated (in the sense of being the best on the market) because there are so many more options on the market now (TP, sOMEThING, sturm panzer, Nobunaga, etc.)

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**Author:** ![KiLbUcK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kilbuck/32/794_2.png) [@KiLbUcK](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/KiLbUcK)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/39 "2015-07-08T19:40:03Z")

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> [@YOYOJAMizm](#):
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> the point naoki is making is that when the sleipnir, messiah, clash, etc. were all released they were ACTUALLY that much better.  
> for when a lot of YYR came out they were some of the best yoyos on the market.
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> i still consider the sleipnir one of the best in my collection.
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> id say now a lot of them might be overrated (in the sense of being the best on the market) because there are so many more options on the market now (TP, sOMEThING, sturm panzer, Nobunaga, etc.)

Ahhh…yes…the options have greatly increased since then!

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**Author:** ![akka0710](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@akka0710](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/akka0710)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-underrated-and-overrated-yoyos/75622/40 "2015-07-08T19:57:11Z")

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overrated: Yeti, Ti Dream (yes, it’s good, but I wouldn’t get it), a lot of clyws(don’t listen to me  
they’re grrrreat!)

underrated: King yo star Prober (no one talks about it), butcher, acro, most tp throws

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