# Most Innovative Player? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 30, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409 "2014-06-30T01:02:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/21 "2014-06-30T15:33:33Z")
> [@velez\_adrian](#): > > Myself seriously? Janos of course ---
**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/22 "2014-06-30T15:35:40Z")
> [@theguitarplayer](#): > > I noticed there was no award for 2013. Yes there was, Zack Gormley recieved it in 2013! A rightly choice too. They are just too lazy to update that. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/23 "2014-07-01T00:29:25Z")
> [@\_Z1](#): > > Yes there was, Zack Gormley recieved it in 2013! A rightly choice too. > > They are just too lazy to update that. I was there when they announced it! 🙂 And to answer your previous question, kinda around 2007 and up. ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_Brewster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adam_brewster/32/644_2.png) [@Adam\_Brewster](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Adam_Brewster)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/24 "2014-07-01T19:45:19Z")
Ricardo Drew Ed Miggy Spencer Rodrigo Pires ALL deserve/d that award now and in years past. ---
**Author:** ![55379](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/55379/32/1154_2.png) [@55379](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/55379)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/25 "2014-07-01T20:14:14Z")
> [@Adam\_Brewster](#): > > Ricardo > Drew > Ed > Miggy > Spencer > Rodrigo Pires > > ALL deserve/d that award now and in years past. yes, Sid seed ---
**Author:** ![thefluteninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19b73/32.png) [@thefluteninja](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thefluteninja)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/26 "2014-07-02T04:06:44Z")
I would add Lazar Medvedev and Nikita Efimov. ---
**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/27 "2014-07-02T21:22:00Z")
> [@someone](#): > > I was there when they announced it! 🙂 > > And to answer your previous question, kinda around 2007 and up. Alright, since you are speaking about all the way back to 2007, there has been an incredible list of players that have helped push yoyoing to absolutely new heights. Innovation is generally split between the influence portion of it and the raw creative innovative play portion. For this, I am speaking directly about 1a and there is two players in particular that I shall call “the most innovative”. One is John Ando. In 2008, John stepped away from 2a and took the 1a game by storm using his arm techniques he has masted in looping into the technical game of 1a. When he stepped on stage and shown the world his collection of Arm/elbow based technical skills it literally took the whole entire yoyo world by storm. Everyone was doing arm combos, it was real crazy! You still see players doing arm combo based tricks to this day. Now, while there was players that did do “some” arm tricks (I’m looking at you Mark Mont) Johns addition really stepped it up and he has forever cemented his legacy. Step into 2010. One name should ring a bell. Jensen “Duns Broccoli” Kimmit. He read the rules, conquered them and took every contest he went to and won it. While one could say he didn’t exactly “innovate” a trickstyle or developeped a completely new concept, he shown the yoyo world the power of “Hops” between 2009 and 2010. His entire style seemed to be based on using hops as a way of transitions and technical play. His use of transitions also essentially infected the yoyoworld as well, as you can see how back in the day Gentry Stein’s style was highly influenced from him but also Augie as well. Those two deserve mega credit for influencing the community and pushing yoyoing to the next level. Again, I am only speaking on behalf of 1a. There has been many players for 1a that has continuously pushed it. ~Z ---
**Author:** ![theguitarplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@theguitarplayer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theguitarplayer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/28 "2014-07-02T22:18:12Z")
> [@\_Z1](#): > > He read the rules… Is there a rule book? ---
**Author:** ![Nikolai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@Nikolai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nikolai)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/29 "2014-07-03T00:31:20Z")
Zammy makes a good point, innovation could be considered doing brand new things but also popularizing them. ---
**Author:** ![Sergio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sergio/32/70931_2.png) [@Sergio](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sergio)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/30 "2014-07-03T03:06:19Z")
Me? ;D ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/31 "2014-07-03T03:26:19Z")
Gennady Malinin also. Just saw this video: [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/1/9/e19aa0d386d6353aed839cbcd7b26eb56a5f489c.jpeg "IM Presents: Gennady Malinin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwG70LQPo4) I’m not just posing this only because its Innovation Movement.  I just happen to agree with them lol. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/32 "2014-07-04T00:31:07Z")
Holy cow how could I forget: Grant Johnson. :o ---
**Author:** ![thefluteninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19b73/32.png) [@thefluteninja](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/thefluteninja)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/33 "2014-07-04T03:18:20Z")
> [@someone](#): > > Gennady Malinin also. > > Just saw this video: > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwG70LQPo4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwG70LQPo4) > > I’m not just posing this only because its Innovation Movement. I just happen to agree with them lol. I agree. I love Russian players! InnMovement has some great videos, but some of the players are not innovative. I am not saying they are bad, just not innovative. ---
**Author:** ![theguitarplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@theguitarplayer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theguitarplayer)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/34 "2014-07-04T03:41:35Z")
> [@someone](#): > > Holy cow how could I forget: Grant Johnson. :o :wink: ---
**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/35 "2014-07-04T04:39:08Z")
> [@theguitarplayer](#): > > Is there a rule book? Online rules for contests+ speaking with the Judges. Jensen did yoyoing like how he does chess, moving one piece at a time. > [@Nikolai](#): > > Zammy makes a good point, innovation could be considered doing brand new things but also popularizing them. That is usually how the trick innovator award is usually based on. Its a combination of both raw innovative qualities and how much influence the person has on the community. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/36 "2014-07-04T07:09:09Z")
1a: Grant Johnson: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu0CP8TtiDE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu0CP8TtiDE) Takeshi Matsuura: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ausL4AjsUxY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ausL4AjsUxY) 2a: Grant Johnson: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6N6\_9UhSmM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6N6_9UhSmM) 3a: Elliot Ogawa: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGB5DXuRo4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGB5DXuRo4) 5a: Chase Baxter: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTr23ceABME](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTr23ceABME) And follow blablanchard (Riccardo Fraolini) on Instragram to see the craziest 1a tricks. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/37 "2014-07-06T02:34:21Z")
I’m losing it. How could I forget Ryan Gee 0\_0 ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/38 "2014-07-06T05:16:58Z")
I gotta say Anthony Rojas has some innovative stuff going on with his rejections and slack. ---
**Author:** ![theguitarplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@theguitarplayer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theguitarplayer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/40 "2014-07-07T00:48:13Z")
Janos, his tricks are mind blowing. Not only can he invent them but he also executes well on stage. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo\_creep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_creep/32/908_2.png) [@yoyo\_creep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_creep)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/most-innovative-player/67409/41 "2014-07-08T07:52:32Z")
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