# More 90s throws new out of Box **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [June 11, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603 "2022-06-11T03:12:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/21 "2022-06-12T05:36:56Z")
And now I have discovered an unopened Profire axle, pads, string baggie. ![IMG_20220612_083014](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/7/c/37cb74572e55d02d324caacda41dda189a7836f6.jpeg) I need to buckle down and get this stuff out of my house šŸ¤Ø ---
**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/22 "2022-06-12T05:38:05Z")
Ah okay, thank you for the clarification. I suppose the ā€œoreo gadeā€ was simply a factory color swap. I had thought that it was modified in some way (gap, shape, weight etc) from the original renegade. ---
**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/23 "2022-06-12T05:41:36Z")
Did you ever end up selling any of your awesome collection? Iā€™m pretty sure I PMā€™d you on reddit to come on over to the forums to get those bad boys appraised. Glad you stuck around my friend! ---
**Author:** ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/24 "2022-06-12T05:51:40Z")
I am _ **still** _ in the where-is-the-time phase of this. I need to complete the inventory first. Thanks for the tip re: appraisal. ---
**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/25 "2022-06-12T05:55:40Z")
Keep them, you seem to love yoyos šŸ˜ƒ but Iā€™ll be the first in line if you do want to rid your hands of some of your gems. ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/26 "2022-06-12T16:45:48Z")
Speaking of old yo-yos, if anyone has a couple of these to sell for reasonably cheap ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/2/d/32dc490c6547d087b4a7826cf38b34335814b46d.webp) please let me know! ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/27 "2022-06-12T17:31:00Z")
Wait that could be played with a bearing or a wooden axle? ---
**Author:** ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/28 "2022-06-12T17:58:34Z")
Although the Turbo Bumble Bee and derivatives were normally associated with a ball bearing they often came with optional items; a fixed wooden axle, a fixed brass axle and a sliding brass assembly. For the ball bearing it was also possible to adjust the gap with different thicknesses of bearing seat. These continued into Duncanā€™s ownership of the design. ![Playmaxx axles](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/4/d/54d076fd23bdd39823baf0026fbe24f9d23dfef1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/29 "2022-06-12T18:05:38Z")
thats really dope, i had a bumble bee at one point in my life (around middle school, so like early 00s), and i dont remember the accessories only the ball bearing, cuz it was the longest sleeping yoyo i had ever experienced lol looked just like this ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/e/b/feba4e47c6b5b77c9019bd607cf94a2318ac0008.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![StrangeBird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/strangebird/32/168820_2.png) [@StrangeBird](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/StrangeBird)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/30 "2022-06-12T19:24:04Z")
Wow dude you really know your stuff! I had no idea there were actually different sized bearings seats to adjust gap width. Thatā€™s freaking awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/31 "2022-06-12T19:35:42Z")
I have what is known as _ **niche** _ knowledge. Not useful, not worthwhile, but there it is anyway. ---
**Author:** ![StrangeBird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/strangebird/32/168820_2.png) [@StrangeBird](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/StrangeBird)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/32 "2022-06-12T19:50:34Z")
Oh it was very useful today my friend!! :+1:šŸ˜:+1: ---
**Author:** ![Jayjo866](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jayjo866/32/159931_2.png) [@Jayjo866](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jayjo866)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/33 "2022-06-14T02:32:15Z")
I had one a nice throw should of remade it ---
**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/34 "2022-06-14T03:21:47Z")
Honestly wish they would. All it needs is a size c bearing and updated response, and the ability to go halfspec for people that want responsive play. ---
**Author:** ![StrangeBird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/strangebird/32/168820_2.png) [@StrangeBird](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/StrangeBird)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/35 "2022-06-14T03:46:49Z")
whatā€™s the appeal with the size C vs the good old size A bearing? im a little out of touch with this stuff, becuase the last time I was into yoyo, I donā€™t even think anyone had put a size C bearing in something yet. or if they did I did not know about it. ---
**Author:** ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/36 "2022-06-14T04:05:57Z")
I would hope that it would get a more thorough rework than that If youā€™ve ever pulled a Renegade apart then youā€™ll know that they are hardly objects of precision engineering and fine balance. Observe the internal weighting ring on this early versionā€¦ šŸ«¤ ![6X7A8290](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/0/e/d0e8e9ca766e1cff05b6944259e1193a2773576f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jp\_728](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@jp\_728](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jp_728)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/37 "2022-06-14T04:21:45Z")
Haha. I think I owe a lot to the ability to play with any old thing. ---
**Author:** ![suspense](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/suspense/32/178499_2.png) [@suspense](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/suspense)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/38 "2022-06-14T06:38:32Z")
Size C is just so standard across the board. It gives you the ability to get the gap bigger for unresponsive, but still use a halfspec to play like an A size bearing - the Renegade uses a size B thatā€™s commonly used for loopers. No one used an A sized back then until YYJ I think. The renegade was the bridge from oldschool to midschool. I would rather a new version of the renegade be pushed towards 1A tricks over looping, since thatā€™s kind of itā€™s history and heritage. Making a new Renegade with a Size B bearing is kinda pointless to me, and going with a Size A kinda feels like it would be the same vibe as a Duncan Freehand. > [@Zippy8](#): > > Observe the internal weighting ring on this early versionā€¦ šŸ«¤ Thatā€™s kind of the reason I want them to remake it. I donā€™t want something fancy, or something expensive, or for them to make something new. All I want is the same exact renegade with an updated response/bearing system. Personally, I put the same type of rubber rings under the caps of my Butterfly XT, I think itā€™s genius. ---
**Author:** ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/39 "2022-06-14T11:22:28Z")
> [@suspense](#): > > I put the same type of rubber rings under the caps of my Butterfly XT Thatā€™s not rubber though. Thatā€™s a length of metal rod, formed into (roughly) a circleā€¦ give or take. I think the term ā€œcrudeā€ would be generous. ---
**Author:** ![Zippy8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zippy8/32/168640_2.png) [@Zippy8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zippy8)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603/40 "2022-06-14T12:10:39Z")
> [@suspense](#): > > Iā€™ve always wondered about the ā€œoreo gadeā€ mod and am wondering if anyone has some info for me on what this is and how to do it. So this was driving me up the wall. I _ **knew** _ I knew about it but couldnā€™t put my finger on it. ![oreo](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/1/7/8179b431e41dd3b59589fe84b1aa74c25321f38b.jpeg) I am determined. From [Infinite Illusions 2001 catalog](http://www.yoyomuseum.com/PDFs/Exhibits/II2001.pdf)(ue). [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/more-90s-throws-new-out-of-box/358603.md?page=3)