# Monometal shape weight distribution question **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 22, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728 "2019-07-22T03:28:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/1 "2019-07-22T03:28:20Z")
So I’m a huge fan of bimetals with weight rings that are pushed back from the rim like the Breeze, the Raiser and the Statement. This provides most of the benefits of rim weighted bimetals (stability and spin time, though not quite to the same extent) without feeling like a brick. Instead they have that hollow like, lighter feeling that is often described as floaty. What monometal shape would have the closest weight distribution to this? This is assuming that the rims haven’t been beefed up with extra weight, and excluding designs that incorporate an inner ring like some CLYWs. ---
**Author:** ![witchgrinder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/witchgrinder/32/57591_2.png) [@witchgrinder](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/witchgrinder)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/2 "2019-07-22T03:43:03Z")
I imagine when you say an inner ring you mean like this? > **[Wind Runner](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/duncan/products/wind-runner-yoyo-by-duncan?variant=45213951624)** > > Duncan is pushing the limits of competitive yo-yo design with an amazing playing model at a great price! The Wind Runner! The Wind Runner is a full sized yo-yo with a competition geared profile and a double rim cup design for superior weight... If not this is one a highly recommend. I don’t believe there is a single yoyo that has impressed me more at that price. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/3 "2019-07-22T03:50:33Z")
Yeah that’s what I mean by an inner ring. I don’t dislike that design element, in fact I really like it, I’m just wondering if there’s a shape that lends itself to that type of distribution naturally without the added ring. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/4 "2019-07-22T03:54:45Z")
The Top Deck is phenomenal yoyo that fits this description. Hopefully the picture shows it properly, but it’s very thin at the rim, and thickens up a good few mm towards the gap. Very stable, nice amount of float. 7075 as well, so it’s one of my favorite monometals of all time. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/a/1/7a1f41df8b7b2bf3396133548b60286e617c7354.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![witchgrinder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/witchgrinder/32/57591_2.png) [@witchgrinder](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/witchgrinder)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/5 "2019-07-22T03:59:19Z")
Would you say the Prescription is similar in weight placement? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/johnnyj/32/94616_2.png) [@JohnnyJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JohnnyJ)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/6 "2019-07-22T04:01:54Z")
I don’t currently have one, but based off of the pictures on this website I’d say so. Appears to have a real thin rim and lots of center weight. The Top Deck doesn’t appear to have quite as much weight in the center as the prescription, but it’s hard to say since I don’t have one. ---
**Author:** ![smileypants707](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smileypants707/32/19045_2.png) [@smileypants707](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/smileypants707)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/7 "2019-07-22T04:08:19Z")
Came here to say this. Top Deck plays as close to a bi-metal as a mono-metal can. It is one of the most powerful, non-brickish yoyos I own, AND it is super comfy in the hand. Honestly, it’s kind of a masterpiece. @Durfee the OD Top Deck should definitely be on your short-list, it totally fits your criteria ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/8 "2019-07-22T04:19:58Z")
@JohnnyJ @smileypants707 So what I’m seeing so far is it’s really not a particular shape that can replicate this but really how that manufacturer chooses to distribute the weight whether with wall thickness or inner rim configurations. ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/9 "2019-07-22T04:20:18Z")
I would suggest looking at yoyos with a middle ring, like this ones: Borealis 2 ![borealis2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/2/d/f2d0a7a96ec42196f45cb6f0f31c04e75527b918.jpeg) Vector ![vector](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/c/2/6c2525daa82a75bbf1a42336685f45274f0ad2ee.jpeg) Dang2 ![dang2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/0/c/50c3044a450c0030ef42b1e1558173178dd68c32.jpeg) Notice how all of those have mass concetrated more towards the middle instead of the edge of the rim. That kind of weight distribution will give you the feeling you’re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/10 "2019-07-22T04:22:09Z")
Yeah I’ve had my eyes on designs like that for sure. I was just curious if maybe certain shapes themselves helped distribute weight that way without needing the inner ring and it seems like that’s probably not the case. ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/11 "2019-07-22T04:23:20Z")
H and W shapes are definetely best at this. Organics obligate mass to be evenly distributed, and angular shapes are most usually rim-heavy desings. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/12 "2019-07-22T04:25:57Z")
How about something like the Terrarian with a super exaggerated W shape? ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/13 "2019-07-22T04:27:25Z")
It could be, but by observing the terrarian it seems like it distributes it’s weight more evenly instead of concentrating it on a certain place. ---
**Author:** ![Durfee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/durfee/32/593280_2.png) [@Durfee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Durfee)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/14 "2019-07-22T04:31:22Z")
Alright thanks you’ve helped a lot. These were suspicions I had but really wasn’t completely sure about. It’s definitely helpful to know what design elements lead yo-yos to play/ feel certain ways when you don’t have the ability to try them all and are looking for a particular feeling. ---
**Author:** ![EOS44](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eos44/32/47059_2.png) [@EOS44](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EOS44)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/15 "2019-07-22T04:42:49Z")
Look what I’ve found! Probably the new Legendary Terrarian might be the solution. It solves the distribution by concentrating mass in the middle, look at how the cups vary. ![terr_vs_legterr](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/d/7/cd743d9abe32b783d14d0cc63414ed98eb2f8304.jpeg) This is very interesting. I’ve never noticed that before. ---
**Author:** ![beeebon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/beeebon/32/30672_2.png) [@beeebon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/beeebon)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/16 "2019-07-22T05:44:05Z")
The Onedrop Topdeck as everyone else has said. ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/17 "2019-07-22T05:44:11Z")
You know who remembered? Pepperidge Farm remembers. > [@One Drop presents: The Legendary Terrarian!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/one-drop-presents-the-legendary-terrarian/303729/20): > > That giant inner cup mid weight ring is the biggest noticeable difference. Rim itself is thinner of course so… very very different weight distribution. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/18 "2019-07-22T13:46:24Z")
Gonna need one of these now. Great. Thanks a LOT. Too bad I think @twitch77 got the last green one. ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/19 "2019-07-22T13:53:02Z")
Sorry about that! It’s one of my faves! 💚 ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728/20 "2019-07-22T14:02:55Z")
I am so hurt you have no idea. On the bright side you have saved me $80 and an argument with my wife. So thank you! [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/monometal-shape-weight-distribution-question/305728.md?page=2)