# Moebius **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 17, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224 "2010-09-17T15:08:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RookieYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rookieyo/32/290_2.png) [@RookieYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RookieYo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/1 "2010-09-17T15:08:46Z")
In 1A freestyle… Are we allowed to do some moebius… Just wondering… ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/2 "2010-09-17T15:54:03Z")
Yes. ---
**Author:** ![patrickcondon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/patrickcondon/32/619950_2.png) [@patrickcondon](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/patrickcondon)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/3 "2010-09-17T17:20:50Z")
personally, if someone did an entire mobeius freestyle, they have my vote. I’d really want to see that soon ---
**Author:** ![Mi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mi1/32/626_2.png) [@Mi1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mi1)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/4 "2010-09-17T21:13:44Z")
Moebius intimidates me. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/5 "2010-09-17T21:16:10Z")
The only problem with moebius is it doesn’t score very well. ---
**Author:** ![james](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/james/32/149_2.png) [@james](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/james)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/6 "2010-09-17T22:44:09Z")
> [@Icthus](#): > > The only problem with moebius is it doesn’t score very well. Why is that, is it cause the style is too slow, or it looks easy? Just wondering, cause I was thinking of doing a Moebius trick in my freestyle at a next upcomming contest. 🙂 -James Reed ---
**Author:** ![noyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noyo/32/441_2.png) [@noyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/noyo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/7 "2010-09-17T22:51:10Z")
> [@patrickcondon](#): > > personally, if someone did an entire mobeius freestyle, they have my vote. I’d really want to see that soon [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/1/a/21a94bd78b0692ea8e40557436b57c1bdf33679b.jpeg "Madfest Zammy 1a 6th place") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL3-Biqdm1o) ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/8 "2010-09-17T22:56:13Z")
> [@Jamesofyoyo](#): > > > [@Icthus](#): > > > > The only problem with moebius is it doesn’t score very well. > > Why is that, is it cause the style is too slow, or it looks easy? Just wondering, cause I was thinking of doing a Moebius trick in my freestyle at a next upcomming contest. 🙂 > > -James Reed Probably because there aren’t many string hits, and speed could be a factor also. IMO, mobeius is more for videos. ---
**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/9 "2010-09-18T04:51:34Z")
[http://www.vimeo.com/8790535](http://www.vimeo.com/8790535) [http://www.vimeo.com/5272366](http://www.vimeo.com/5272366) To answer the questions thats been had here: 1. Yes it can be used in 1a, but it receives the same type of points as regular 1a does. 2. Someone posted my 1a freestyle from 09 Madfests. Here is the 2010 madfest as well as 2009 Midwest Regionals. 3. Moebius can be sped up to match the point whoring system but because I am so nervous I am miserable onstage, ergo, I am not meant to be a competitor. But there is potential, more then people realize. I’m not going to give up either. For now, people could use it as a trick style. 4. moebius is not easy. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/10 "2010-09-18T13:43:28Z")
And that is the other reason. Moebius is very hard to learn and create killer tricks. Zammy is just a madman with it. Long live the Moebius King! ---
**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/11 "2010-09-19T06:50:46Z")
Yeah, but Zammy doesn’t want to be king, he wants to share his knowledge. It is not as intimidating or as hard as people believe. Thats why I am doing the project to teach people and hopefully people may pick it up. ~Z ---
**Author:** ![Mi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mi1/32/626_2.png) [@Mi1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mi1)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/12 "2010-09-19T08:36:58Z")
Check out his Moebius 101 series. ---
**Author:** ![RookieYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rookieyo/32/290_2.png) [@RookieYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RookieYo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/13 "2010-09-19T11:01:05Z")
I just tried to learn moebius… And my yoyo flew… Luckily it leaves no mark… Thanks for the info guys. ---
**Author:** ![james](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/james/32/149_2.png) [@james](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/james)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/14 "2010-09-19T21:14:16Z")
Zammy inspired me to start learning Moebius. I learned a star to double tower. Go on my youtube account and click on Got Trick. It is the first trick in the video. And yesterday, I made up my own repeater moebius trick. Thanks Zammy! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OMLORyoyo69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e36b37/32.png) [@OMLORyoyo69](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/OMLORyoyo69)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/15 "2010-09-19T21:52:55Z")
i sure wish i knew what moebius was ??? ---
**Author:** ![\_Z1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/_z1/32/230318_2.png) [@\_Z1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/_Z1)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/moebius/19224/16 "2010-09-19T21:58:43Z")
> [@OMLORyoyo69](#): > > i sure wish i knew what moebius was ??? [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/f/3/e/f3ed1a186adf9ab0ee24ad7100df980c3aaa148c.jpeg "Moebius 101: What is Moebius?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnK0HtEZN4) This is what moebius is.