# Modern yoyo bearing seats, too tight? Why do they suck? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 28, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-yoyo-bearing-seats-too-tight-why-do-they-suck/349589 "2021-12-28T15:03:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Marioyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/marioyo/32/303068_2.png) [@Marioyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Marioyo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-yoyo-bearing-seats-too-tight-why-do-they-suck/349589/21 "2021-12-29T17:57:32Z")
A gradual taper will shorten your area of engagement to locate the bearing, so long as you’re only tapering a portion of the seat, it can definitely help lead-in the bearing. Small tapers and chamfers are easy for a little grooving tool to do while in a lathe, Post-production it wont be so easy. ---
**Author:** ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-yoyo-bearing-seats-too-tight-why-do-they-suck/349589/22 "2021-12-29T18:02:34Z")
The reason why their tight is because it’s easier to make a smooth yoyo with a tight bearing seat than a loose one, and everyone in the community is/was obsessed with smoothness, so the machine shops went this direction to sell more yoyos. You can still have a tight bearing seat and easy assembly, they’re not exclusive. My first prototype had a HORRIBLY tight bearing seat where it was next to impossible to get the bearing off, even with a tool. I tweaked it for production and while the bearing is still tight it can be removed easily with a multi tool, and the yoyo screws together/apart flawlessly. ---
**Author:** ![Almonds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/almonds/32/133810_2.png) [@Almonds](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Almonds)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-yoyo-bearing-seats-too-tight-why-do-they-suck/349589/23 "2021-12-30T22:07:33Z")
I never unscrew my yoyos unless I’m cleaning or swapping the bearing. I always put in a wooden toothpick and pull the knot out. This isn’t to say a very tight bearing seat is acceptable or that you shouldn’t open your yoyos, but I do lean toward don’t open them unless you need to. I do occasionally practice 2a, and I suppose I have to take those apart to get knots out. These yoyos often come part very easily though. Also axle knots seem pretty rare for me when practicing 2a. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainFoxxButt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captainfoxxbutt/32/197384_2.png) [@CaptainFoxxButt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/CaptainFoxxButt)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-yoyo-bearing-seats-too-tight-why-do-they-suck/349589/24 "2021-12-31T16:26:56Z")
Im personally not afraid to open any yoyo, if problems occur then i just wont buy from that company again ---
**Author:** ![DrewMarshall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drewmarshall/32/645986_2.png) [@DrewMarshall](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrewMarshall)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-yoyo-bearing-seats-too-tight-why-do-they-suck/349589/26 "2024-06-03T12:53:10Z")
Tight bearing seats are a complete headache. I bought an SE1 prototype (radiance prototype) and unscrew it to get an axel knot out. The bearing seat got absolutely knarled. I dont feel this is acceptable for a 120AUD yoyo. The next day I had to remove the bearing for maintenance and that was even worse. Companies just make huge bearing seats and its then ur problem after you buy it. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-yoyo-bearing-seats-too-tight-why-do-they-suck/349589.md?page=1)