# Modern Responsive **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888 "2022-01-18T17:07:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/241 "2023-12-02T04:23:44Z")
> [@safidoesyoyo](#): > > What makes you say they aren’t modern responsives? A I believe that as a yoyo designer Glen was pointing out that they were not designed as responsive yoyos. So I appreciate his point but no one wants to start a new division so let’s stick modern responsive. They are modern, they are responsive, I say yes. ---
**Author:** ![safidoesyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@safidoesyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/safidoesyoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/242 "2023-12-02T04:58:22Z")
Ah okay that makes sense :+1: ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/243 "2023-12-02T05:06:04Z")
Technically all yo-yos can be responsive or unresponsive but have to be modded to do so. Some it’s as simple as swapping a bearing others it’s an axle too others it’s shims or more destructive modding efforts. Glenn is obviously coming at this from a creator perspective and Cody from a modded perspective. In the end play with yoyo how you like and call it what you want. Modern responsive probably fits as the style. ---
**Author:** ![anon5341354](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/244 "2023-12-02T07:48:12Z")
This is the modern equivalent of any ancient weaponized yoyo design that may have existed. 70g of head-hunting responsive AL. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/245 "2023-12-02T14:17:24Z")
Certainly not a responsive Steadfast!! 😱 ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/246 "2023-12-02T14:27:34Z")
The most stable modern responsive :wink: doubles as a personal protection device ---
**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/247 "2024-04-10T14:05:35Z")
> [@Modern Responsive](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/6): > > Hi. My name is Malachi and I have a modern responsive problem. I hope this support group will be helpful in my recovery. I’ll edit in a bit with names and some opinions. If I don’t specify bearing, it’s probably small (most likely A or D). If you have any questions about any of these, just let me know. First Row Basecamp Moonshine 2 (with stock, mismatched thick/thin pads) DocPop x Rain City Skills Pop Art w/ Rain Drop counterweight Core Co. Alley Cat 650b Top Yo… A couple of years back @Malachi took many of us to modern responsive school. I think it is still the best reference tool available. I’m surprised how few totally new yoyos there are to add to this list. ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/248 "2024-04-10T15:17:19Z")
Mr. Tommy, As a Modern Responsive Fan Boy, maybe we keep Mr. Malachi’s list going? A few I can think of; MK1xSW Metal Harbinger ZGRT Polycarbonate El Mijo DocPop PLTPS Laid Back Swing Nude Trump 1/2 spec Layer Infinity Kasm ZGRT Albrije, Slim D bearing Beacon 5ive Origen?? ---
**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/249 "2024-04-10T15:35:46Z")
As a Duncan boy I have to add: Freehand Mini World Class ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/250 "2024-04-10T15:36:37Z")
Freehand 2? ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/251 "2024-04-10T15:38:06Z")
You know, when you stand back and look at it…that’s a pretty impressive list. I’m really liking to see that there is more effort going into bringing out new and exciting responsives as opposed to just staying with the old school. ---
**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/252 "2024-04-10T15:41:35Z")
I have two Freehand 2’s that are responsive but I thought some might balk at it. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/253 "2024-04-10T15:54:46Z")
Since we’re listing the Mijo and Poly Mijo separately, I’ll add in the El Tio. ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/254 "2024-04-10T16:29:42Z")
Rotor and yyr impact are slept on as pocketable modern responsive ---
**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/255 "2024-04-10T16:30:29Z")
Also turbo grind machine. That cork pad smell while playing is nostalgia ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/256 "2024-04-10T17:24:54Z")
el Tio should also be in that list edit: charlie beat me to it =] ---
**Author:** ![oops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/oops/32/683976_2.png) [@oops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/oops)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/257 "2024-04-10T18:07:39Z")
I still don’t know what modern responsive actually means cuz when I see a video of it, it looks like someone playing fixed axle just with a bearing yoyo but when I owned a polycarb El Mijo I could still tell it was a really special modern responsive yoyo ---
**Author:** ![Pun1sh3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pun1sh3r/32/193125_2.png) [@Pun1sh3R](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pun1sh3R)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/258 "2024-04-10T18:23:48Z")
My definition; Modern Responsive yoyos split two play styles. 0A Fixed Axle - With a bearing the yoyo still has the ability to Stall and complete most/all fixes axle tricks. May also include looping. 1A String Trick - There is enough spin time from the bearing and wide enough gap that you can pull off most Responsive 1A tricks. The beauty and crux of this is; We want a yoyo that splits the difference. However personal play style comes into play. A “Modern Responsive” may lean closer and play better to the 0A style or lean closer to the 1A style. This is why it is generalized as “Modern Responsive”; a catch all if you will. Can it play both styles? It will probably receive this nomenclature. Just my thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![bheinz63](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/bheinz63/32/137310_2.png) [@bheinz63](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/bheinz63)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/259 "2024-04-10T18:34:15Z")
when i think “modern responsive” yoyo, im definitely thinking of a yoyo designed capture the essence of a fixed axle yoyo, meant for fixed axle style play but the bearing unlocks a little bit of 1A possibilities. this is different from a typical “responsive” yoyo designed for 1A play, think yoyos like the Arrow, Sage, most Magic yoyos, first base, even the FH1 that come responsive out of the box, but are really more meant for traditional 1A play, and can be made to be unresponsive. ---
**Author:** ![SmashYoyos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/smashyoyos/32/271121_2.png) [@SmashYoyos](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SmashYoyos)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888/260 "2024-04-11T00:12:32Z")
Depends on how you want to look at it. A modern responsive yoyo is really just a responsive yoyo with a bearing. Thats the difference between a fixed axel and a responsive. So like an arrow or a shooting star is still technically a modern responsive yoyo when set up for responsiveness. A modern responsive trick is really a broad range of tricks. You can play modern responsive trickset that is based on stalls and everything that a fixed axel yoyo can do. Honestly that is most of what we see out of this forum (which is a good thing). Thats just what happens when you give yoyo players that like to play fixed axle a modern responsive yoyo. You could give the exact same modern responsive yoyo to players that exclusively play unresponsive yoyos and will probably you get a bunch of whining about the yoyo coming back to the hand during their godspeed, and a lot of basic tricks because they dont have the foundation of fixed axle play lol. Thats why most modern responsive looks like fixed axle, cuz fixed axle players are the ones generally carrying this category. BUT give that yoyo to a unresponsive player with some creativity and skill they will probably be able to pull of a lot of tricks typically associated with unresponsive yoyos that many will be surprised can be done on a responsive setup. That is the area where I think a true modern responsive player lives. Anywhere beyond what a fixed axel yoyo can typically do. There arent many out there because frankly its easier to be on one side or another. One very good example is modern responsive 5A though. Try doing those tricks with a fixed axle butterfly or even a transaxle spinstar and you wont get very far. So grab you a modern responsive yoyo for that and push that baby to the limits. I like trying both, but i do cherish fixed axle and typical modern responsive a lot because of the fundamentals they bring. I want my modern responsive to stall well AND do string tricks well. So you can live in both worlds with it. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/modern-responsive/350888.md?page=14)